Dementia, Tumors, DNA mutations from WIFI, Cellphones, Laptop etc.

Many thanks to SummitAP for the very informative post :
"Cellphone's in the US mostly have 35cm wavelengths which have photon energies of about 3.5µeV but some phones like Sprint have the ability to do around 16cm wavelengths or about 7.8µeV. WiFi is about 12cm and 10µeV."

I do have some questions concerning your statement about Sprint phones : Is there any correlation between rate plans and photon energies ? Would changing from Unlimited Nationwide to 600 minutes (free nights and weekends) decrease my risk of dementia ? Also : Am I exposing myself to harm when I fall asleep with my TV remote in the bed?

It's a tough question, but decreasing your cellphone minutes will probably decrease dementia in others around you.

As far your TV remote, it is usually pretty harmless, but since uses an infrared LED, if you fall asleep holding a button down, it will burn a hole through your bed, through your wall, through your neighbors house, and shoot down the governments secret thought-control satellite. I definitely recommend sleeping with a remote.

Seriously!!!! Think about WHERE you are holding your phone?!?!?!? Warm hand and plastic!

Dr. Oz did a show about this recently and he is worried about what some of the latest studies are showing. He recommends people limit cell phone use, ESPECIALLY by children. I am not willing to call people that are sounding the alarm crazy just yet. Since I am 60 and a light cell phone user I am not personally in any danger but I do worry about my grandkids.

That looks like a very sciency show right there. Looks like Jerry Springer for medicine. I personally don't go to CTV's sensationalist journalism for my health advice. But, let's pick it apart anyways...

I find it hilarious that they are OK with bluetooth (essentially the same frequency as WiFi) which constantly talks between linked devices.

Then Dr. Davis (who is a PhD in History of Culture-Science Studies, not an MD), goes on to say a phone in your pocket could give you exposure "in your bone marrow." But somehow she thinks that a purse is going to shield you when clothing and skin won't?

She goes on to claim that "there have been a number of studies that have found reduced sperm count in men who have had the phone in their pocket a lot." Well... that's quite a claim. Is it true?

I found two studies. One studied the effect of 16 test subjects versus 16 controls with 4 hours of talk time. This is a very small sample group with a very large exposure. I wasn't able to find a study where I could examine the results, just found references to it on news sites.

The other study was done on sperm OUTSIDE the human body placed 2" away from a cellphone. The other noted "more studies are necessary to provide definitive evidence against cell phone radiation, which can be provided by in vitro studies combined with computational biomodeling."

So we have established that Dr. Davis (really what PhD goes by Dr. outside of a classroom?) is prone to exaggeration.

She then says to "Turn the phone off" to keep your exposure down when not talking. This is hilarious. Clearly, she doesn't understand how they work. Yyour average CDMA flip phone, for example, is NOT sending out any EM when you aren't making calls except when it switches towers (maybe every 10 minutes if you are driving fast in an area of bad reception) or once every half hour when the local tower "polls" the phone to make sure it is still there. When the phone registers in either situation, it is sending for less than 1 second. This is not significant.

This is another highly questionable non-academic source. You have yet to provide and scientific theory or fact in this debate, just YouTube.

How would you characterize the style of Dr. Oz's show? Maybe more Glenn Beck? Honestly, I don't watch that much TV aside from South Park.

It's not that Dr. Oz's whole show is wrong, I haven't seen enough to make a comment, but his TV show is hardly a reputable scientific source. His show is not in an academically respectable format, and the PhD he brought on for the cellphone segment did nothing to support your position.

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