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No. 10
from chrisciwi
Old Jul 03, 2009, 07:02 PM

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I am going to be a male nurse and I have heard people say "all male nurses are gay" I usually just look at it, as someone being ignorant. I live in the south and there are a lot of people who are ignorant and have their opinions but DONT keep them to themselves.

I am not "gay" but yet when people (even people I have known my whole life) hear I am going to school for nursing I hear that remark. And sometime its worse than you can think, I've heard some stuff I can't even repeat on here.

Everytime I hear it I try to ignore it, but sometimes it does get to me. I don't think i will return to the south (especially my state) to practice, because of that. I believe that in northern states it is atleast less common to hear those type of remarks.

I do have a question, while I was in school for CNA training, they didn't place males with females. I understand how this could be an issue, (males having elderly female patients) but do they do this in typical try to place male nurses with male patients?
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No. 11
Old Jul 03, 2009, 07:28 PM

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My husband hasn't had to deal with the gay stereotype, just the notion from patients that he is using nursing as a stepping stone to become a doctor.
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No. 12
from Moogie
Old Jul 03, 2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruby Vee View Post
Sadly, our society still tends to discriminate against those who are "different". I'd like to see a day when everyone can marry the partner of their choice regardless of gender and when one's sexual preference is just one more charactoristic that makes them who they are. And I'm looking forward to the day when a "male nurse" is just a nurse.
:yeahthat: Could not agree with you more!
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No. 13
from Moogie
Old Jul 03, 2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by travel50 View Post
One of my sons chose to go to nursing school after he graduated from high school. Shortly after his first year, he got sick at work one nite. So sick that his boss took him to the ER. I got there, and decided he was having a panic attack. They couldn't find anything else wrong. There was a male nurse on duty who asked me if I minded if he talked to him. He spent 30 min with him, and the symptoms disappeared. The nurse told me that students at school were making fun of my son for being in nursing school, calling him every name you can think of. And it was a parochial school....just seems like that should make a difference, but guess not. He'd been trying to ignore them, until finally he just got sick. It made him feel so much better to see and talk to a male nurse who was not homosexual. He continued on for another semester, but then just had enough of it. He has since joined the air force. It is unfortunate. He is exceptionally bright, very compassionate and caring. He would have made a great nurse. He wanted to work in pediatrics.
It's the nursing profession's loss. I am sorry this happened to your son.

If he WAS gay, SO WHAT? Does that make him any less of a person?

One of my friends was discriminated against in nursing school back in the '80s because he was gay. He was a good person and, as far as I could tell, he would have been a fine nurse. Stupid, stupid stereotypes! They hurt EVERYONE!

Originally Posted by travel50 View Post
But for the record, I have had 2 male nurses work for me in the past who were homosexual. They were so good, and we were fortunate to have them here. I had a male aide who was murdered recently because he was homosexual. We were devastated. None of us cared that he was homosexual. The person who killed him has no idea what he took from us, or just doesn't care.
OMG. What a horrible thing to happen to your aide. I certainly hope his murdered was convicted of a hate crime.
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No. 14
from rknauber
Old Jul 03, 2009, 08:52 PM

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For the record I am a straight male RN. I don't care about my co-workers sexual orientation, skin color, religion, ethnicity, etc. Whatever they chose to be is fine. As long as my co-workers personal life does not interfere with caring for patients it does not matter the slightest bit.All I care about is a competent, compasionate staff to work side by side with as a team. Why is there a stigma of gay male nurses? I have worked with far more openly lesbian nurses than gays.
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No. 15
Old Jul 03, 2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweety View Post
Is it that "ugly" and "unpleasant"? Maybe we need to look at ourselves and how we react to the stereotype. Reacting with defensive homophobia isn't going to help us.
I think I understand what you mean. At no point was I suggesting that men going into nursing who have qualms about the stereotype should be encouraged solely by saying it is not gay-dominated anymore, as if a profession preferred by gay men is otherwise unwholesome for 'real'(!?) men, or there is any difference between a straight/male/gay/female nurse. They should be told simply if that's what you want, go for it! I also realize inherent in the stereotype that men who choose a nontraditional, female-dominated profession (or for that matter, cultural tastes) are less-than-'real men' is a negative view of gay men (& therein lies the ugliness), & a proper response to such comments may be "and your point is?"...And of course we should decry homophobia everywhere. My original post was focused on what I perceived was a wrong reaction to the other thread, i.e., criticizing the kid (or calling him a troll) who brought up the issue of stereotyping, because it does exist.
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No. 16
from topher-67
Old Jul 03, 2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisciwi View Post
I am going to be a male nurse and I have heard people say "all male nurses are gay" I usually just look at it, as someone being ignorant. I live in the south and there are a lot of people who are ignorant and have their opinions but DONT keep them to themselves.

I am not "gay" but yet when people (even people I have known my whole life) hear I am going to school for nursing I hear that remark. And sometime its worse than you can think, I've heard some stuff I can't even repeat on here.

Everytime I hear it I try to ignore it, but sometimes it does get to me. I don't think i will return to the south (especially my state) to practice, because of that. I believe that in northern states it is atleast less common to hear those type of remarks.

I do have a question, while I was in school for CNA training, they didn't place males with females. I understand how this could be an issue, (males having elderly female patients) but do they do this in typical try to place male nurses with male patients?
Ignorance is blind and sometimes it is driving a p/u truck with a Ducks Unlimited sticker in the window. There were a total of three men in the class (CNA) including myself. I don't understand why they would seperate the guys from the gals??? I have many female residents that I take care of and they say it doesn't bother them that I give them a shower, peri-care, etc. Of course there are a few that do not want any male to do some of the ADL's, but I understand and just let a female CNA take care of them.

As for the gay male stereotypes deal....:deadhorse Guys, whether a gay nurse or straight nurse we still get the job done!
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No. 17
from travel50
Old Jul 04, 2009, 06:32 PM

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Moogie,

In answer to your question, they have not found his murderer. But the circumstances and evidence tell us that he was murdered b/c of his sexual preferences. Long story to explain evidence. The way we found out that he'd been killed was by the evening news. Some of the residents who like to sit up late and watch the news, were in the lobby where the big screen tv is. They announced it on the news. The poor residents were distraught, crying, etc. It was such a long nite for them.
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No. 18
from Moogie
Old Jul 04, 2009, 07:08 PM

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How horrible. I am so sad for the loss of this young man who obviously was well-loved by the residents for whom he provided care---as well as his co-workers.

Thanks for LMK and again, I am so sorry about this senseless loss.
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No. 19
from Moogie
Old Jul 04, 2009, 07:27 PM
Updated Jul 04, 2009 at 09:15 PM by Moogie

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Originally Posted by Ruby Vee View Post
The gay male nurse stereotype exists, like most stereotypes, because there is some basis in truth. Thirty some years ago, the only male nurses I had ever met were either gay or pretending not to be gay. There were the former monks and priests who went to nursing school when they left the religious life, and there were the gay men who introduced me to their "roommates" and when they invited me over, gave tours of their one bedroom apartments with only one bed. There was the male nurse who pretended to date me so people wouldn't know he was gay, and there was the gay male nurse who married a former nun to cover up HIS preferences. Things started to change in the early 80s. More and more straight men went into nursing and now, I think, if straight men don't outnumber they gay men by a majority, it doesn't matter. After all -- someone's sexual preference is their own affair (so to speak) and no one needs to know or care about it other than the partner of their choice or someone who wishes to become the partner of their choice. But I have no difficulty at all understanding why someone near my age or older would continue to carry that stereotype. It may be ignorant NOW, but it was at one time true.
I'm a tail end Baby Boomer like Ruby and I sadly remember those stereotypes from the '70s and '80s. I don't recall any of my fellow ADN students being out of the closet. Goodness, when I went through the ADN program, no one cared because none of us had the TIME for dating much less sex!

Seriously, we did have one gentleman in our class who was a former priest---he was married to a former nun and they were going through hell, I mean, the nursing program together.

Several of the guys in my class were former military medics or corpsmen who became interested in nursing while serving our country. One guy was a Vietnam veteran. I think some of the men felt the need to "prove" their masculinity because they were in a female-dominated profession. Actually, these guys were annoyingly macho, almost to the point of being sexist. Maybe they were covering up their sexual orientation; maybe the macho men were simply jerks.

I was pretty close to a gay friend in my BSN program. When we had rare downtime, we used to go out for coffee or drinks, and when we weren't complaining about nursing school, we were griping about the men in our lives.
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