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just old micro chirpin in.
has taken off psychic hat for moment and tongue doesn't even feel warmed up to do tongue in cheek,
hey all, let's keep discussion rollin, laughin, cryin and politely disagreein'
nurse Dennie, oh well now there are two thought provoking emails.........
whoops, starting to be psychic again,
micro

Nana, my house is 7 months old, its a little too soon to be remodelling! Anyone who comes over will understand or leave! "pets" lol, they are the only ones he isn't allergic too.

my kiddo has been drinking from a cup for a long time, perhaps a year. I still find it amazing to watch him drink from his cup, some might see that as silly. Now he knows which doors are supposed to be closed and he helps me keep them closed, unless its the pantry, and I just watch in amazement.

I love my son more than I thought it was possible to love. Perhaps this is another thread, but we have hit so many topics here, but does it bother anyone else to see the society's view of children? On TV they are portrayed as a problem, a hindrence, an obstacle to be overcome, or kicked out. I wish I saw more examples in the media etc that showed the huge blessing that children are to their parents. My old roomie got pregnant and of course told her family first then started calling friends. I was the first person to tell her congratulations. her family just sighed, like, well it had to happen sometime. people who complain about their kids all the time irritate me because they are missing such wonderful experiences because they are busy doing stuff that doesn't matter. I believe God put me here to be a great mother, I feel that is my primary ministry for this part of my life. I probably won't make a big difference in this world, or even in the lives of a few, but my children can and I plan on equipping them with everything they need to do it. So believe me when I say I enjoy every moment of motherhood. I remember trying to study for A&P and the baby was in his exersaucer just jumping away and having a grand ol' time. I was supposed to be studying, I put him in the saucer so I could study, but all I could do was watch him; he was so happy. I had to restrict my studying to his sleeping hours.

amazing, I believe God never turns on us, he's always standing there with arms wide opened. that's what sets christianity apart from all the other religions, its the only one where God sacrificed his son for the sinners to reconcile them to Himself.

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you a mechanic

OK guys, I am not reading all these posts word by word, but I did notice in my skimming (since I moderate this forum, every post comes to my personal and Rick's e-mail to read) nurse dennie is trying to delete something? If it is the whole thread, I don't know if you can once someone else has posted, but you can remove your own individual posts by hitting the edit button in your message, then choosing delete post above the reply fields.

If you want to try to keep this on the original thread, try each posting by cutting and pasting your messages into the old thread, then let me know and I will delete the new one.

Does that help??

pm me to let me know. How will you decide? The main people posting here? This will apply to all who posted above this note, OK? Let me know when/if you are each ready to delete this one, and post to others to return to the original thread.

I am not sure if there is a limit to the "space" one thread can take up, you would have to check with Brian for that.

What do you think of a forum of your own called spirituality in nursing?? If you like that idea, pm to Brian, maybe he will consider it.

Have a good day.

Great idea hoolahan! Could we pleeeaaassseee have a such a post! I know it would make a lot of nurses happy who enjoy sharing their beliefs with one another without feeling as if we are infringing on the beliefs of the nonbelievers. Thanks for the suggestion, too, even if Brian won't allow us to, it was awful nice of you to suggest it!

I leave for a few days....and you make a new thread? Are you all trying to get rid of me? lol.

Anyhoo~! My thoughts....
I hope that I didn't say that I thought church was for hypocrits, nor do I hope I implied that.....I dont think that I did. If I did,,I will aplogize for saying so and smack myself in the head for being retarded. If I did state that I dont know where it came from or what I was thinking at the time. My thoughts on church are simply that it is not for me. I have no need or desire for a church family, I have a great family outside of the church, I dont feel the need to surround myselff with like minds for the purpose of worship....no other mind needs to be like mine! I do appreciate this in others however I am completely content.

Dennie! I so enjoy your posts...oh you make me think. Kids....and innocence, I have a two year old who thinks the world is his, yes very self centered, I have to teach him to share which is a huge task......what I think is that yes all children are self centered and I think this is how the learning process has to be....when a child insists that toy is his, it is perhaps because he is not done figuring it out yet...screams and crys follow out of frustration. When I think of innocence, I am thinking more along the lines of loving and being loved. AT two my son knows when his brother is upset and acts accordingly...he will climb up in his lap and hug him, he will console an upset child at school......yes he learned t his behaviour from example,,, but do you thinka child that has never been hugged would never desire t o be or enjoy that feeling? Look at the helpless innocence of a newborn....this being needs and desires food and love and thats all......perfect innocence, not an impure thought in that tiny brain....untill it discovers the world.....much like adam and eve discoverd how good the fruit was. HEE HEE!

Pkmom, I so agree with you. I cant understand how it has come to be that children a re such problems. I think again back to the selfishness of the world. I think that one word "selfish" is the root of alot of problems. Parents have these children, and put their own needs first , are involved in their own worlds and their children are afterthoughts.....that learn from their examples. People are not t eaching their children anything about life and what it is to be here because they are so wrapped up in themselves, their jobs, thier money, their time, t heir needs. Not unlike you, I know my pupose here, and it i s to raise my children.....first a nd foremost......they are where all my thoughts turn too, they are the reason I am here. Every thing I do is for them, My husband and I discussed from the get go how we were going t o do things and it was s imple......money didn't matter....work/careers d idn't matter....the soundness of our family was all that mattered. We have given up jobs and money and educations to raise our son's, and we have struggled financially for it, but our kids have always had us, and we have always been a ble to give them everything they wanted or needed.......funny how it works that way, we have been as poor as dirt, but those boys sure didn't miss much.
I too sit and watch my sons...even my eldest who is 11, and stare in amazement at the things he does or says...it is a never ending joy I think.

The answer.....what is the answer? How do we fix it?
You said Pkmom, that you felt it is your primary ministry ffor this part of your life..............tell me how you share it!!
How do we turn it around?

Sometimes I think to myself if it werent for those darn women's lib'ers that women would be at home raising their kids and caring for their families ....like leave it to beaver......

(ducking now.....hoping not to be pelted in the head with rotten fruit....)

You just stand up real tall Sundowner.... I'll be the first to stand in front of you to shield you from the thrown things for that statement.

If everyone felt the love and concern that I'm feeling on this thread of the love of children, the world would be a much better place to grow up in for our future.

Young Moms: Hold those loving thoughts close to your hearts, You will *never* regret them.... Each generation seems to me to grow much more caring and wiser in child-raising... For this I am thankful and thank each and every caring parent today....

Have a book mark "If I Had My Child To Raise Over Again", written by Diane Coomans. Tears come to me every time I read it. It makes me proud to be a Mom and a Nana. Of course I would do some things different. We would live yesterday doing better because of the enrichment of experience... But I love each parent whom is doing the best they can, in any circumstances, providing there is LOVE....

Read somewhere that Mommy Love is different than the love of Daddy Love... It's sad, but I believe true. Each is different, and I wish everyone could feel the love a Mother has for their child....

God so loved the world, He sent His Son for us.... That is the greatest feeling in my heart because I was, am, and always will be a parent.... Guess this sums my feelings up for today....

Thanks for the human shield Nana!!

I think that i t is true,,,there is no love like a mothers love!
Awesome and all powerful!

Those darn women's lib'ers! I'm there with you. I think this nations foundation is the family and because of those crazy bra burning women the family has, in general, taken a turn for the worst. How many families eat dinner together on a regular basis? My family ate together almost every single night, almost every sunday the extended family met for lunch too. I think we are a tight knit group because we have always spent time together. the family is a sacred thing and no one should mess with that, unless its damaging of course. How much has been sacrificed for a bigger bank account? What is the family unit really worth anymore?

I am currently a full-time stay at home mom and part time student. I can offer my son so much more by being home with him than I can going to school and working and not ever seeing him. this is not a prestigious job in the worldly sense, It doesn't make me beautiful, or rich, but in my mind, a well-functioning family makes me successful. If I make more money but have a dysfunctional family, what have I accomplished...nothing. the most important things on this earth are people, not $, or houses, or cars and I am not going to let someone else raise my kid so I can chase after those things.

I am not totally against childcare facilities, but I think they are over used. I have thought that I am a bit of a weenie because I would't be able to be away from my baby all day, then come home and avoid him trying to do household stuff and then put him to bed before crashing myself not ever having the chance to chase him all over the house and tickle him to hear him squeal. (My heart really goes out to single mothers who don't have the help that I do and thus don't have as much time to spend with their kids.) I took a part time job a few months ago, my son was in the mothers day out program in the same building, but I didn't see him. I hated wednesdays because I worked that day, then put him to bed for a nap, made dinner, and then left him again for a Bible study; I felt like I never saw him. On the days that I worked, I missed my sons best hours. It was not fun, but I did spent a lot of time posting on this BB!

Being a stay at home mom is not glamourous, but it is increadibly important to my family. It's not easy and i wish the media would stop portraying it like something that a non-educated person would do. It takes a strong woman to do it because it gets really hard sometimes. A good ministry for stay at home moms is play groups. We started one a few months ago, but it hasn't done anything since, I guess I need to pick up that ball. getting together with other women and chatting can fight the frustration and loneliness that plagues us. its not a big thing or hard thing, but I feel it would be good to get together with a couple of other non-made-up faces and share the burdens that moms have.

In summation, I feel that our country would be better off if we spent more time strengthening the family than we did inflating our bank accounts

pkmom, I like the way you think for yourself! I, too, agree that our country would be better off if we spent more time strengthening the family than we do inflating our bank accounts.
Well said!