Thought provoking email CONTINUED

Carpe_de_em,

First, I have to say that I agree with Renee when she emphasizes the fact that the wrongs done to you were no fault of your own. What I think is that when things like this happen, a person needs to confront it, see it for what it actually is and then examine why it is that it has controll over them and then take that controll away. I think that it is very easy to let the things that happen to us in life define us, and very difficult to get beyond them.

I have never believed in putting things in God's hands, but rather empowering myself. I think that it is not possible to have healthy relationship with anyone, even God, if you have none with yourself, I think the answer is to find yourself first.
Who you are is NOT a helpless victim, yes you were a victim, but you don't have to continue to be one, that is not who you are, you dont have to stay in that position for ever, I wish I could tell you how to get out of it. It is like a snowball effect, you start at the top of the hill and some awful thing trips you and you start rolling down gathering snow....and then you end up being trapped in this big snow orb with all of the awful things around you that you picked up on the way down the hill....ya need to figure out how to melt the snow, dust off the bad things and start again at the top of the hill.

Somewhere along the line,when you are trying to find the girl you lost on a date, God will be there, perhaps not to save you or show you the way, but just to hold you up.

I think that if you can overcome the burdens placed on you by others...you will be just fine. No one, not even God can help you dump them though....yes I think God will be beside you, but he cant make it all go away. I think that it is a very difficult thing to do, and it is all up to you to find whats in your heart and live it. Your relationship with yourself is most important now, other relationships can wait.

Hoolahan,

That's okay (about the spiritual forum)! At least you suggested it, and I thank you for trying! At least we can share spiritual topics on the "Off Topic - Just Conversation" forum. Can't complain about that! Have a good evening!

Carpe-de-em

You are stronger than you think.......You are more beautiful than you think.......You are more spiritual than you think......You are smarter than you think.........You are a great person.........and you have only just begun.................

Make the past(wrongs and rights) work for you, and then move along putting one foot in front of the other...........good friends, loving ( at least liking yourself), giving your worries a day off, forgivng yourself, believing in God or a higher power(if that is your hearts desire), getting regular medical checkups, and medication and couseling(secular.....if you feel the need and find one that is non bias and professional).........

I am going to go out on limb here, but right now with emotions laid out so bare(been there) is not the time to seek religion.........(I know just my opinion).......religion is manmade.......spirituality and knowing and liking oneself is a whole different matter.

Carpe-de-em,
What Renee, Sundowner, myself have said.......we hear your pain and can share in so much.............We all mean the best for you and for each other and ourselves.........Life is hard and ????????????????????????????????????????? exist and not many outright answers........................

the above I could and have said to myself many, many, many, many times...............and have learned some hard lessons....................but at 40+ am just starting to get a grasp on the past and my reaction to it................


I have often said and do believe.........Out of my weaknesses, comes my strength..............this does not disclude God or a higher power, but it does empower me.............and you if you want to use it.........

if not that is okay too, remember......something else that I have learned in life.............

I don't have to take anyone's advice unless I wanna!!!!!!!!!!!!!

talk at you later and all here,

we are a bunch of good people and how we can reach out and help without ever physically meeting,

micro

Carpe-de-em, Yes, we DO feel your pain, and each one of us have had trials in life.. that's what keeps us human.

You registered to this forum in Feb, 2002, you ask for our help, and I believe things happen sometimes for reasons..

We are here for you...Laugh and the world laughs with you, Cry, and you cry alone: I say Baloney.... shared love multiplies and shared sorrows divide... And right at this moment I feel your pain.

I also learned along time ago, in the bottom of lifes pit, that God never turned his back on me, that I had turned my back on letting him in my heart. I had to be at the bottom to be pulled up.

In your *footprints* of life, Carpe-de-em, there are just one set of prints many, many times. You need to be proud of the times there were two.

Yes, I'm repeating others, but you are special. I truly believe God doen't make junk (especially with Him/Her/It on our side.)

You want to "talk" about your problems, well, you've came to the right site.

I will not only pray for you, but for our wisdom and love to give you the lift in life you are seeking...... Mail me too, if you would like to just chat.....Love Nana

hey, Nana Kathy

so good to see you and to carpe de em we are still here.............and not the thread nerds that we make out to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!




later, micro:stone :stone

Hello carp_de_em!

How have you been doing lately? I do hope you are feeling much better today! You've been in my thoughts and prayers, and just wanted to stop and let you know that! If you ever need to -- or want to -- chat privately, just send me a "PM" (Private Message) and I'll get back to you as soon as I get it. Have a great nights sleep tonight! Hugs and -- (don't you just love that little kissie emoticon? I sure do!) [When I use it in your post, imagine me saying "Smooches to you!" I'm a hugger and a kisser anyway, so I'm simply sharing a part of me with you here. Night now!

Okay,, I have nothing to say really,,,, except I would be very .....if I didn't get to use this today.

Hey Gang, I'm jealous... HOW DID YOU DO IT? I would like to put the Icons on my post replies too.... I feel like such a dummy on this computer.....

Anyhow, kisses too you all too.....

ugh, tried posting yesterday and I was denied.

carpe-de-em, just want you to know that I said a prayer just for you yesterday after I read your story. Gonna tell the ladies at church tonight and you will have 20 more people praying specifically for you too.

I hope you realize that God has not turned on you, he doesn't do that, he is waiting with open arms for you to come to him. He won't hurt you, he just wants to love on you. It really bothers me that no one helped you when you were crying in church, that wouldn't happen in my family, we'd all be crying with you. I'm sorry that such crappy stuff has happened to you, but you must let it make you stronger and not destroy you.

I don't know who you are or where you are, but right now you are being loved on from someone in Oklahoma. I hope you can appreciate that.

:stone :stone:roll


okay all.........along with the faith of or lack of that carpe-de-em talked about.........thought I would attempt to share this web page.........as I thought it suited up nicely.......and along with my He/She/It idea of my higher power..............I feel that with open mind that this could be taken with any religious belief.......


so now to attempt to try to share this website.......

you know me about 3-4 tries and I might get it right.....


titled Buttprints in the Sand.........

http:// www.bigfatbaby.com/newfun/butprint.cfm


now to see if works.......

micro