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Jul 05, 2009 04:27 PM

Vent ! Landlord Being Totally Unreasonable

Updated Jul 05, 2009 at 06:38 PM by Silverdragon102

:angryfire This is totally off topic but i just need to vent!My husband and I are renting a two bedroom apt of a two storey house.The landlords live upstairs.I have two kids both in school and go to school full time so my husband is the only one working.When we first moved there the rent was $1200 plus we paid our own electricity and gas while they paid the water.Months later they said we had to contribute toward the water since at that time we had some in-laws visiting.A few months later they raised the rent to $1400 which with our water contribution is $1500.We protested this and they said if we can't pay then we should move.(Well the wife at least,her husband is such a gem).Anyway now today she comes down and says we have to contribute even more for water now since the rates have increased.How inconsiderate can she be.Where in the hell does she expect us to come up with all that money from? Mind you she doesn't have to drive a stroke.They are financially well off.Have other houses renting,a car dealership business,sell clothes and have people for every chore there is.Someone to cook,clean and press.Yet they expect us to pull money out of a hat.we really want to move and have even considered getting a loan or mortgage and build our own home but the thing is that i am on a contract with the phone company for internet use for a yr.They say i can't disconnect it until that yr is up and most i could get is 2wks.If we move now it will take at least a mth to get the service connected to the new house and that would be in breach of the contract which will expire in aug.So we were trying to hold on till then since I have a bad credit rating with them due to me acquiring a service in my name for an in-law who ran up the bill for $3000 and left me to foot it.They said i'd get my bad rating erased next year Thank god.Well now i'm wondering where we will get that money from since a new semester is starting which means i have to buy uniforms for clinicals,polo shirts for classes,books for me and both kids and all the other expenses,pay rent,light,gas and find extra money for water.I try to save as much money as possible since i know it's really hard on hubby sending the three of us to school on his salary alone.I don't understand how some people can be so inconsiderate.Sorry for this long vent but i'm just so ****** right now.:angryfire


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from tinkaddict
Old Jul 05, 2009, 04:52 PM

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Did you sign a lease when you agreed to rent from them? If you did you need to look at it and find out what your rights are. You could also call your local Landlord/Tenant rights board in your city or county to see if they might be able to tell you if they can just demand verbally that you pay more for the water when they agreed to pay for the water themselves and you would be responsible for the other utilities.
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from llg
Old Jul 05, 2009, 05:11 PM

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I agree with tinkaddict. It all comes down to what your lease says and what your legal rights as a tennant are. What does your lease say about the water bill? rent increases? etc. The landlords is not in business to make your life easier. They are in the property management business to make money. It's a business relationship, not a friendship. If they can get tennents to pay those increased prices, they have every right to charge them as long as it doesn't violate the terms of the lease. So, what does your lease say about those things?

Assuming you have been living there for a while and have shown yourself to be good tennants who cause no trouble and pay on time ... perhaps you can work out a payment plan to buy you some time while you look for a less expensive place to live.

Good luck to you.
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from caliotter3
Old Jul 05, 2009, 05:20 PM

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My current landlords charged me extra deposit when I moved in because they said my credit wasn't good enough when really there was nothing wrong with my credit and they raise the rent religiously each year. However, I am aware that whenever I decide I don't want to pay it anymore, I can choose to leave. Since this is now a pattern with them, I would make plans to leave and then get out of there. Who cares about the cable. Just find a new place and leave, as long as your lease is up. Find a new place, then give 30 days notice and move. As said before, landlords are in the business to make money. They are not a social service agency and don't care what your personal problems are as long as they get their rent and you don't trash their property. Good luck finding something more affordable.
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 05:23 PM

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I have sympathy for your situation I really do, but just because they have a lot of money it really doesn't mean they "owe" you anything! It seems like a lot of your anger comes from the fact that they have it easy compared to you and that may be true, but like others have said, you are engaged in a business relationship with them. They don't owe you a break and I am certain they are not doing this just to be mean.

I hope you are able to find an equitable solution to this problem but you really have to stop yourself from making this "personal". It will eat you up.
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from JBudd
Old Jul 05, 2009, 05:40 PM

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Sounds like the landlord himself needs to be involved (the gem). As said above, what is in your lease? If you have in writing the utility breakdown, you're good to go. If you don't have a long term lease (at least a year), you've left yourself wide open for this capricious behavior. Does the husband even know what his wife is asking you for?
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from ghillbert
Old Jul 05, 2009, 06:19 PM

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As a landlord, it annoys me slightly to see how you speak about what they have. Maybe they worked hard for what they have and are now able to enjoy it? I have three properties that I rent out, but I worked damn hard to be able to afford them and you can be sure that if the tenant isn't paying the rent, I'll get a new one.

Having said that - there are strict laws about these things. They can't just have you pay more because they feel like it. Check it there is a tenancy association for your state. Usually they have to give you written notice of an increase or change in terms - they can't just come and tell you to pay more because you have visitors staying. Make sure you know your rights.

If the increase is lawful, and you can't afford it - move. I wouldn't worry about the cable - call the company and see if they can work with you. I'm sure they'd rather keep a good customer than screw you over.
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from keithjones
Old Jul 05, 2009, 07:25 PM

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where do you live that the water bill is over $100? i pay around $30 a month!
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from caliotter3
Old Jul 05, 2009, 07:44 PM

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BTW, having been a landlord myself, the mortgage on the property can and does sometimes increase, every year with an adjustable rate mortgage; the property taxes do increase each and every year; insurance on the property increases each year; maintenance costs increase, and must be paid, because you can't let a property go to hades with a tenant occupying it; and utilities do increase. If the going rate for rentals in your area is decreasing, which is quite possible, it means the landlord may not be meeting their costs. My rental income always only paid a portion of my mortgage, not all of it. So, landlords are not necessarily the money-gouging ogres that people like to portray them as. And I worked very hard for my property. Whenever I regained possession of it, and saw the damage done by tenants over and above what my expenses were to begin with, I got sick to my stomach. Literally sick. If you don't like your landlords raising the rent, then move and find a landlord that provides you housing to your liking at a price you can afford. Just voicing the other side of the coin.
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Old Jul 05, 2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TakeTwoAspirin View Post
I have sympathy for your situation I really do, but just because they have a lot of money it really doesn't mean they "owe" you anything! It seems like a lot of your anger comes from the fact that they have it easy compared to you and that may be true, but like others have said, you are engaged in a business relationship with them. They don't owe you a break and I am certain they are not doing this just to be mean.

I hope you are able to find an equitable solution to this problem but you really have to stop yourself from making this "personal". It will eat you up.
I dont think at all that she was expecting a "break", I think she is just stating that they are wanting more and more, for no apparent reason, other than the fact that they can. Sometimes you can be between a rock and a hard place, because basically you are at the landlords mercy if your lease isnt clearly spelled out. I can understand paying the increases even if your upset about it, because moving actually would cost more than just paying the increase, which means the landlord wins and gets what they want, which from what it sounds, is more money. To move you would have to find a new home, pay a new deposit, and you know good and well that they landlord isnt going to give the deposit back (been there done that, and no matter how clean you leave it, they ALWAYS find a way to keep at least half the deposit!). Moving might be an option, but it sounds complicated, and in this heat there is no way in heck I would want to move unless I absolutely had to.
But you for sure need to do as the others said and read your lease. If you didnt sign a lease then you will have no choice but to either move if you cant afford it, or if you CAN afford and didnt sign one, then I would have one drawn up stating the new prices they are quoting you and have them sign saying this is good for the amount of the lease, so they cant raise the prices yet again.
I dont think at all you were looking for favors or breaks, I think it probably just feels frustrating to know that you are doing what you can to pay what they are asking, and yet they keep asking for more and more, while they live a nice happy life, and your struggling to pay the bills. Thats great if they worked hard to get what they have, but if they are just raising it just to be difficult and trying to squeeze out as much as possible, thats pure greed.
I hope it all works out for you, I can completely identify with husband working, and kids and yourself going to school. But just tell yourself that this is the reason you are going so that you can say screw the landlords and buy your own darn house and forget renting! When your a nurse, things should ease up financially and then you will look back on this time and say "thank god that time is past!"
Good luck to you!
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