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from zuzi
Old Jan 18, 2009, 10:08 PM
Updated Jan 18, 2009 at 10:40 PM by zuzi

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Well.... don't ask yourself to much because you will don't understand either, looool . Much more don't imagine either than in any other coutry could be much more different or easiest if you will have "the right"
To have or not "the right" is just a political issue, controversial one of course, loool, and never will be "the inner people's light", sad or not this is a true! So how do you think that could be on TV for all.......he, he, he, too many dirty games..
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from ECKPowers
Old Jan 19, 2009, 01:54 AM

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Civil Rights= Rights for all people. Yay Gay!

My closest friend is a gay man. He and his partner have been together for five years. That's longer than most marriages these days. As American citizens they deserve the same rights as other consenting adults!
Let Freedom Ring! Vote in favor for gay rights!
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 06:20 AM

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AG Brown has filed an interesting argument that may bring down Prop 8 as unconstitutional.

HBO blew it. They should have broadcast the invocation.

Invocations are a form of "civil" religion. Usually nondenominational and generic.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 07:44 AM

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This may be considered a stupid question/observation, but...

Why is it that heterosexuals don't want to marry, just live together; and homosexuals don't want to live together, but get married?

Please don't read more into the question than I asked.
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from sirI
Old Jan 19, 2009, 07:50 AM

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Non-nursing related. Moved to US Politics forum.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 11:59 AM

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I feel it should have been shown like the rest of the festivities and honors.
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from marachne
Old Jan 19, 2009, 03:35 PM

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OK, now that I see it didn't start in the politics forum, I understand why this thread and the one I started didn't dovetail. A couple of things:

First off, here is the text of the prayer. I really like is way of referring to god that is a bit more inclusive than most (and apparently is very common in the UU church)

A Prayer for the Nation and Our Next President, Barack Obama

By The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson, Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire
Opening Inaugural Event
Lincoln Memorial, Washington, DC
January 18, 2009


Welcome to Washington! The fun is about to begin, but first, please join me in pausing for a moment, to ask God's blessing upon our nation and our next president.


O God of our many understandings, we pray that you will...


Bless us with tears - for a world in which over a billion people exist on less than a dollar a day, where young women from many lands are beaten and raped for wanting an education, and thousands die daily from malnutrition, malaria, and AIDS.

Bless us with anger - at discrimination, at home and abroad, against refugees and immigrants, women, people of color, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

Bless us with discomfort - at the easy, simplistic "answers" we've preferred to hear from our politicians, instead of the truth, about ourselves and the world, which we need to face if we are going to rise to the challenges of the future.

Bless us with patience - and the knowledge that none of what ails us will be "fixed" anytime soon, and the understanding that our new president is a human being, not a messiah.

Bless us with humility - open to understanding that our own needs must always be balanced with those of the world.

Bless us with freedom from mere tolerance - replacing it with a genuine respect and warm embrace of our differences, and an understanding that in our diversity, we are stronger.

Bless us with compassion and generosity - remembering that every religion's God judges us by the way we care for the most vulnerable in the human community, whether across town or across the world.


And God, we give you thanks for your child Barack, as he assumes the office of President of the United States.

Give him wisdom beyond his years, and inspire him with Lincoln's reconciling leadership style, President Kennedy's ability to enlist our best efforts, and Dr. King's dream of a nation for ALL the people.

Give him a quiet heart, for our Ship of State needs a steady, calm captain in these times.

Give him stirring words, for we will need to be inspired and motivated to make the personal and common sacrifices necessary to facing the challenges ahead.

Make him color-blind, reminding him of his own words that under his leadership, there will be neither red nor blue states, but the United States.

Help him remember his own oppression as a minority, drawing on that experience of discrimination, that he might seek to change the lives of those who are still its victims.

Give him the strength to find family time and privacy, and help him remember that even though he is president, a father only gets one shot at his daughters' childhoods.

And please, God, keep him safe. We know we ask too much of our presidents, and we're asking FAR too much of this one. We know the risk he and his wife are taking for all of us, and we implore you, O good and great God, to keep him safe. Hold him in the palm of your hand - that he might do the work we have called him to do, that he might find joy in this impossible calling, and that in the end, he might lead us as a nation to a place of integrity, prosperity and peace.
AMEN.

And here is some video of it: ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed. View this video at YouTube

As to who is to "blame" for it not being aired? Well HBO points at PIC, and they are just saying it was an "unfortunate error" Feels like being thrown under the bus to me...

Here's so more info:

Contacted Sunday night by AfterElton.com concerning the exclusion of Robinson’s prayer, HBO said via email, “The producer of the concert has said that the Presidential Inaugural Committee made the decision to keep the invocation as part of the pre-show.” Uncertain as to whether or not that meant that HBO was contractually prevented from airing the pre-show, we followed up, but none of the spokespeople available Sunday night could answer that question with absolute certainty. However, it does seem that the network’s position is that they had nothing to do with the decision.

A statement from the Obama camp/Presidential Inaugural Committee:
“We had always intended and planned for Rt. Rev. Robinson’s invocation to be included in the televised portion of yesterday’s program. We regret the error in executing this plan – but are gratified that hundreds of thousands of people who gathered on the mall heard his eloquent prayer for our nation that was a fitting start to our event,” said PIC communications director Josh Earnest.
The sense I get is that:


1) the PIC told Robinson to be on at 2:20.

2) the PIC told HBO to start airing at 2:30
3) Someone in Obama's team did not want "teh queers" to get any airtime or recognition.


As Dan Savage said, "if you're going to throw someone a bone, you better make sure that the bone can be seen."


I am deeply disappointed. Obama runs a tight organization, and I can't believe that this was a simple "mistake" :angryfire


I am trying really hard to hold off judging Obama's true feelings about "what to do about the homosexual problem" until he does something real like, say, revoke "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" but it's getting harder and harder w/every slight and offense.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilovemywife View Post
This may be considered a stupid question/observation, but...

Why is it that heterosexuals don't want to marry, just live together; and homosexuals don't want to live together, but get married?

Please don't read more into the question than I asked.
1) Because there are hundreds of privileges (legal, financial, health related) that are only available to people who are married. We should have the option to choose to engage in these or not.

2) Because marriage is a way of obtaining community support and acknowledgment for one's relationship. It's another way of establishing validation and visibility.

I could list others, but that gives you the jist.

I do not think that marriage should be #1 on the priority list of LGBT people, but I do believe it is an important right that, without, we are second class citizens.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilovemywife View Post
This may be considered a stupid question/observation, but...

Why is it that heterosexuals don't want to marry, just live together; and homosexuals don't want to live together, but get married?

Please don't read more into the question than I asked.
Many heterosexuals do want to get married. And they have that right! I imagine that many of the LGBT that are advocating for the right to marry don't necessarily have any plans to do it immediately. It is not unreasonable to believe you're entitled to the same rights as everyone else, whether you intend to exercise them or not.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 08:24 PM

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I'm really surprised that HBO wouldn't include a beautiful prayer but does put on such disgusting crap as almost pornographic shows. Or movies with so much profanity in them that you can barely understand the dialogue.

That really shows their value system is a bit skewed.


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