Has Obama gone too far?

One of the news commentators had an amazing point about this socialist crap. He asked a GOP anti-healthcare reform member of congress if they would have voted for social security and medicare if he had been a member of congress in those days, and this GOPer said of course. The news person wanted to know how those were not socialist programs and how they haven't driven this country into total communism.

And, since Medicare and Medicaid, both government-run programs, (public option) are taking on the very old, the poor and very sick, groups that private insurers won't touch, they arguably have more reason to be failing. Yet they seem to be doing ok.
If private insurers aren't able to step up to the plate here, then let government run the thing! Let the market decide, isn't that what capitalism is all about? If government can, by it's size, negotiate better prices for people, then let them. Why should Granny have to pay more for her drugs or procedures just because she lives in the US? We should not be trying to preserve the profits of private industry.
Some things aren't appropriate for profit-making, health care is one of them. It's too important to be left to the questionable decision-making of a bunch of overpaid CEO's!

Well let us take a look back do we not the Police, Fire Department, Welfare, WIC, Education... aren't all these programs "socialistic" in nature yet we still continue to be a democratic nation.... seriously health care should be right along with that list.

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Absolutely! And something that just cracks me up is this...The very same folks who don't think government is smart enough to get involved in health care decisions have no problem with government, through the judicial system, sentencing people to death for crimes, even though there have been tons of people who were later found not to be guilty of those crimes. But, these folks think it's perfectly ok to flip the switch.
If government is really THAT incompetent, then why be ok with having them sentence people to death?

Actually, "nappy-headed hoes" was from Don Imus...:-)

The thing that irks me about those characters though, is that while they don't actually start the rumors themselves, they are perfectly ok with allowing them to spread, unchallenged. None of these guys are stupid, so they know
EXACTLY what they are doing.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...nce/index.html

Editor's note: Author Wendell Potter has served since May 2009 as senior fellow on health care at the Center for Media and Democracy, a nonprofit organization that says it seeks to expose "corporate spin and government propaganda." After a 20-year career as a corporate public relations executive, Potter left his job last year as head of communications for one of the nation's largest health insurers, CIGNA Corporation.

If the radio report had carried more of my remarks, he might have a better understanding of how the health insurance and its army of PR people are influencing his opinions and actions without his even knowing it.

Until I quit my job last year, I was one of the leaders of that army. I had a very successful career and was my company's voice to the media and the public for several years.

It was my job to "promote and defend" the company's reputation and to try to persuade reporters to write positive stories about the industry's ideas on reform. During the last couple of years of my career, however, I became increasingly worried that the high-deductible plans insurers were beginning to push Americans into would force more and more of us into bankruptcy.

The higher I rose in the company, the more I learned about the tactics insurers use to dump policyholders when they get sick, in order to increase profits and to reward their Wall Street investors. I could not in good conscience continue serving as an industry mouthpiece. And I did not want to be part of yet another industry effort to kill meaningful reform.

Oh, Don Imus! Thanks for correcting me...I just throw all of those guys in the same pot. They all seem to spout the same atrocious ideas...:wink2:

The health care insurance industry is running scared. All those lovely profits are in danger. So they are engaged in a huge campaign of disinformation and rumor-spreading. It is to be expected.
I just hope and pray that they fail, because we NEED reform.