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No. 10
from leslie :-D
Old Nov 11, 2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VickyRN View Post
It's not a comparison, per se, just another indicator of the ridiculous sense of entitlement that has swept our nation over the past 30 years or so. Sad thing is, those of us who are still working will be paying for this nonsense.
comparing cell phones to a fundamental need for survival, is clearly and blatantly sooooo apples & oranges.

so vicky, wanting/needing healthcare, connotes a "ridiculous sense of entitlement"??
(i'll await your response before 'responding' but my eyebrows are raised above my head. :-))

leslie
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No. 11
from GCTMT
Old Nov 11, 2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Grace Oz View Post

It might be difficult, but it's possible. People all over the world,- including myself a long time ago,- have done so and continue to do it everyday.

Before mobile phones became the "norm", most ordinary people used either private home phones or public phones. We caught buses, trains and other forms of public transport.

I'm all for helping people, but there needs to be caution in just how much help is given lest the incentive to pursue things for ourselves is eroded.
Of course. It is possible to find a job without a personal phone or car. But, there's no denying that as new technologies come along, we become dependent on them.

Public transportation is seldom available to people in rural areas.

As far as eroding our sense to pursue things for ourselves, there will always be and have always been dead beats, but don't be fooled, they are rare. Most of us want to pursue goals and lead productive lives.
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No. 12
from GCTMT
Old Nov 11, 2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
"It's not a right, like health care."

Health care is not a right, it is a privilege, and since we live in a country with an economy such as ours, we have the privilege of offering it to all.

Morally speaking, health care is a right. But, as it is currently practiced in the United States, it is a privilege for those who can afford to purchase it.
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No. 13
from GCTMT
Old Nov 11, 2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyRN View Post
It's not a comparison, per se, just another indicator of the ridiculous sense of entitlement that has swept our nation over the past 30 years or so. Sad thing is, those of us who are still working will be paying for this nonsense.

By definition that is what a right is, entitlements from law or morality. As we have seen, just because someone has a right to something, doesn't mean they are going to get it.
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No. 14
from NRSKarenRN
Old Nov 11, 2009, 04:13 PM
Updated Nov 12, 2009 at 01:03 AM by NRSKarenRN

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The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) created the Lifeline Program to help guarantee Universal Service in the US as mandated by Congress. The Lifeline Program provides discounted telephone service to low-income families and individuals that otherwise would find it difficult to pay for telephone service.

Lifeline and Link-Up: Affordable Telephone Service for Income ...
To qualify for Lifeline Support, Families or individuals have to be either enrolled in a State social service program or qualify under the U.S. Federal Poverty Guidelines ---income less than 150% poverty level.




What Benefits are Available Under the Lifeline and Link-Up Programs?
  • Lifeline Assistance provides discounts on basic monthly service at the primary residence for qualified telephone subscribers. These discounts can be up to $10.00 per month, depending on your state.
  • Link-Up America helps income-eligible consumers initiate telephone service. This program pays one-half (up to a maximum of $30) of the initial installation fee for a traditional, wireline telephone or activation fee for a wireless telephone for a primary residence. It also allows participants to pay the remaining amount they owe on a deferred schedule, interest-free.
Residents of Native American Indian and Alaska Native tribal communities may qualify for enhanced Lifeline assistance (up to an additional $25.00) and expanded Link-Up support (up to an additional $70.00).
In my area, public phone booths are gone along with pay phones at gas stations, convenience stores and even hotels. In home care, I deal with about 20% of our patients who are transient: living with family, friends, former neighbors, or shelters. It's definitely a different world that what I grew up with.
Over the past 2 years my intake departments noted that many homes no longer have land line service, only cell phone due to increased cost of landline service --- about 5% have NO phone service as unable to afford rent, electricity and heat. Those hospitalized for weeks then spending 1-2 months in a nursing home, often have phone service disabled. Providing 68 minutes per month provides link to outside world for many.

In PA, majority of people on Medical Assistance/Medicaid in PA are children and families.
http://www.issuespa.net/articles/11788
Under the link up program in PA, Americhoice insurance (Medicaid HMO) will provides a pre programmed cell phone to pregnant women without phone service giving access to insurance company, OB and pediatrician, 911 and one emergency contact. Women's shelters also can provide phones.

Separate program helps citizens with speech or hearing impairments for Telecommunications Relay Services
Sec. 255 - Telecommunications Access for People With Disabilities
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No. 15
Old Nov 11, 2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NRSKarenRN
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) created the Lifeline Program to help guarantee Universal Service in the US as mandated by Congress. The Lifeline Program provides discounted telephone service to low-income families and individuals that otherwise would find it difficult to pay for telephone service.

I would also like to add that the program has been around since the 80s but it is only recently that people seem to have a problem with it.
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No. 16
from C2CNurse2b
Old Nov 11, 2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SharonH, RN View Post
I would also like to add that the program has been around since the 80s but it is only recently that people seem to have a problem with it.
This is so true. Been around for decades. At least in California that I know. Qualifying for it was a bit laxed, however. But definitely a great program for those working class stiffs during lean times. It must be renewed every year. Of course, once the media has an opportunity to exploit a story to gain reader or viewship, anything can become a problem. And the media knows that a little knowledge can be quite profitable.
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No. 17
from Kolohe99
Old Nov 11, 2009, 08:38 PM

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This must be the program that when you get a land line or buy a cell phone plan they tell you it will be $59.99 and then when you get your bill it's for $62.17. I guess I assumed it was for low income people to ensure they had a phone so they could call 911. I'm OK with that. I just hope they aren't using it to call their bookie in Brooklyn.
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No. 18
Old Nov 11, 2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolohe99 View Post
This must be the program that when you get a land line or buy a cell phone plan they tell you it will be $59.99 and then when you get your bill it's for $62.17. I guess I assumed it was for low income people to ensure they had a phone so they could call 911. I'm OK with that. I just hope they aren't using it to call their bookie in Brooklyn.
We kept our land line for emergency use - no long distance. It is $29.

steph
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No. 19
from GCTMT
Old Nov 12, 2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SharonH, RN View Post
I would also like to add that the program has been around since the 80s but it is only recently that people seem to have a problem with it.
Excellent point. This is the first time I've heard of it. It's Obamas' fault.
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