The right of habeas corpus to some Bagram detainees

*herring_RN* · Apr 13, 2009 09:17 PM

The Next Guantánamo
…In February, the new administration disappointingly followed the example of the Bush White House in opposing judicial review for prisoners who have been indefinitely detained at Bagram without any charges or access to lawyers.
The administration has now added to that disappointment by appealing a new federal court ruling extending the right of habeas corpus to some Bagram detainees. …

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/opinion/13mon1.html?hpw

Honnête et Sérieux · Apr 13, 2009, 10:34 PM

Change you can believe in...

Atheos · Apr 13, 2009, 10:42 PM

Wow...

A whopping 3 people. He's such a Bush...

Honnête et Sérieux · Apr 13, 2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Atheos

Wow...

A whopping 3 people. He's such a Bush...

Try 30...and it doesn't matter if it were only one.

I seem to remember single-person examples being used as examples of judicial abuse...Padilla.

Still want to use the "whopping three people" defense?

**HM2VikingRN** · Apr 14, 2009, 01:50 AM

And habeas corpus will be extended to the Bagram detainees as a US held military base for all intents and purposes is US soil and subject to the jurisdiction of the federal courts...

Honnête et Sérieux · Apr 14, 2009, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by HM2Viking

And habeas corpus will be extended to the Bagram detainees as a US held military base for all intents and purposes is US soil and subject to the jurisdiction of the federal courts...

Obama doesn't get credit for that; a Rhenquist/Roberts appointee submitted that ruling, which the Obama admin opposes.

Atheos · Apr 14, 2009, 07:16 AM

And THAT is what I disagree with. Bagram is on foreign land and not US soil. Though I will admit that I did not know they were diverting people there to get AROUND Gitmo...

Honnête et Sérieux · Apr 14, 2009, 07:20 AM

Seems as though there is some disagreement about a military base being "US Soil."

Atheos · Apr 14, 2009, 07:24 AM

Sure, we control it but it's not the same as Gitmo. We were given the land in Gitmo the same as the Panama Canal(in the past) and embassy land.

We are only temporarily occupying Bagram... Unless we are planning on staying there...

Honnête et Sérieux · Apr 14, 2009, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Atheos

Sure, we control it but it's not the same as Gitmo. We were given the land in Gitmo the same as the Panama Canal(in the past) and embassy land.

We are only temporarily occupying Bagram... Unless we are planning on staying there...

GITMO is a lease.

So is the Bagram military base.

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