Rush Limbaugh

*Moogie* · Oct 15, 2009, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by SharonH, RN

I'm not surprised that some would try to make this about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. It was not about them, and trust me nobody dropped him because Al Sharpton criticized them. It was about Rush and what a hateful bigot he has been for many years now. The players didn't want to play for him and the fans didn't want him to have any part of their team. So off he goes and good riddance. Who would have thought that words have consequences?

I remember years ago Rush yapping about how there should be racial quotas for professional sports. My ex, a dittohead, loved the idea. Never mind he didn't know a basketball from a hockey puck (my ex, not Limbaugh).

I can completely understand why an African-American player might not want to work very hard for team owner Rush. I don't think comparing football players to gang members and questioning the brain power of an African-American quarterback are the best ways to motivate a team. And while money talks, I don't think even Rush has enough wealth to make up for his snarky comments over the years.

Words do indeed have consequences and that's why many people have a tough time taking Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton seriously. They both have made outrageous statements on many occasions and, regardless of how valid their perspectives may be, they have lost a lot of credibility.

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by heron

It's a brouhaha because Limbaugh does not want to take responsibility for the choices he's made to further his career and is stunned to find out that words mean things.

They are both interesting to me in regards to the above statement . . and both videos worked fine for me. Jamie Gangel interviewing Rush - asking him hard questions.

But I realize I'm not gonna make any headway . . in fact I thought long and hard about even posting on this thread. I simply think that Rush should be able to speak for himself.

I don't think Rush is racist.

I'll leave it at that.

steph

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Moogie

Words do indeed have consequences and that's why many people have a tough time taking Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton seriously. They both have made outrageous statements on many occasions and, regardless of how valid their perspectives may be, they have lost a lot of credibility.

I agree with this . . . Jackson and Sharpton have lost ALL credibility.

steph

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 01:13 AM

To be fair . . let's listen to the other side.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...dia-lynch-mob/ (The comments section is interesting)

http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...cyNzA2ZWE1NDI=

http://www.northstarnational.com/200...otes-prove-it/

http://townhall.com/columnists/Dougl...mbaugh_matters

http://townhall.com/columnists/HughH...ew_mccarthyism

"Professor Karen Hunter of Hunter College in New York took Rush-bashing to a new low. Hunter bluntly declared that Rush Limbaugh had endorsed a posthumous Medal of Honor for Martin Luther King assassin James Earl Ray --a ludicrous defamation that went completely unchallenged by the anchor. What can you say about such reckless and reprehensible hate speech, except that it not be welcomed on any cable network, much less NBC. That so poisonous an environment around Rush exists as to allow such a malicious fabrication to pass unchallenged should have warned Goodell not to credit the feverish assertions of the anti-Rush mob."

Seems to me that regardless of your politics or whether you agree with Rush or not, someone has to concede that people have been telling lies about him.

steph

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 01:23 AM

This was interesting . . .NFL . . . Not For Liberals.

There is a chart that shows teams and political contributions . . it does lean GOP.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...fl-owners.html

steph

**BBFRN** · Oct 15, 2009, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by Spidey's mom

This was interesting . . .NFL . . . Not For Liberals.

There is a chart that shows teams and political contributions . . it does lean GOP.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...fl-owners.html

steph

Regarding this report: it should be noted that the contributions are only shown in totals. Personally, I would be more interested in seeing the breakdown in contributions between owners, coaches, players, and staff. I would be willing to bet that owners (and possibly coaches) are more likely to contribute to Repubs than players and staff. It's a red flag to me that they repeatedly only report the total contributions, and not the breakdowns.

Of course, I could be wrong. If the breakdown is noted out there somewhere, I'd love to see it. Has anyone seen it?

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by BBFRN

Regarding this report: it should be noted that the contributions are only shown in totals. Personally, I would be more interested in seeing the breakdown in contributions between owners, coaches, players, and staff. I would be willing to bet that owners (and possibly coaches) are more likely to contribute to Repubs than players and staff. It's a red flag to me that they repeatedly only report the total contributions, and not the breakdowns.

Of course, I could be wrong. If the breakdown is noted out there somewhere, I'd love to see it. Has anyone seen it?

Spoken like a true research-immersed nursebrain - which I'm afflicted with myself.

I was simply googling stories last night and it got very late so I quit and went to bed. I'll see if I can find anything.

But here are some more about the other side of the story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,5154334.story

"Excuse me! This is either someone's sick, sick joke or someone's working on a massive evil plan!

Rev. Jesse Jackson joined Rev. Al Sharpton in sending a letter to the NFL that argues against Rush Limbaugh's attempt to become part of Rams ownership. Jackson said Limbaugh made his wealth "appealing to the fears of whites" with insults against blacks and other minorities. This from the man who used the "N" word last year -- two years after he called for a public ban on that word -- and said he wanted to cut off Barack Obama's testicles. Nice credibility, huh? ..."

Jackson and Sharpton, by the way, quickly raced down to North Carolina to convict three members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape -- three white members -- as claimed by an African-American woman working for an adult dancing service. Charges were dropped and the players were declared innocent, but I don't recall Jackson and Sharpton racing down to North Carolina just as quickly to apologize. Nice credibility, huh? ...

"And let's not forget when Jackson referred to Jews as "Hymies" and New York as "Hymietown" in a conversation with a Washington Post reporter. Before finally admitting his use of an anti-Semitic phrase, Jackson accused Jews of conspiring against him. Nice credibility, huh? ..."

"Raise your hand if you think Jackson and Sharpton are perhaps the only two people who could make Limbaugh look respectable. . . "

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 08:12 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/...link=email_msg

"Joanie Frey’s friendship with Limbaugh started 30 years ago when she worked for George Brett and he worked for the Royals. That friendship has maintained, enough that she had dinner with Limbaugh recently when he was in Kansas City to pick up Brett for a golf trip.

She is hesitant to talk about Limbaugh because she has heard too much bashing of her friend, accusations of bigotry that just don’t jibe with the man she has known for three decades.
Limbaugh is “totally different” away from the microphone, respected enough that there is very little turnover among the people who work for him, Frey said.

That is the man Herk Robinson remembers, too. Robinson, then the Royals’ vice president for administration, hired Limbaugh and was there when he left.

Robinson said that the menial tasks Limbaugh did back then — escorting the national anthem singer, for instance — were beneath him and that both sides knew it was a bad fit. Even back then, Robinson was impressed by Limbaugh’s quick mind and intelligence, sure that he would go on to bigger things.

Robinson, Matthews and Frey said Limbaugh would be a good owner if given a chance. Independently, each said their friend would most resemble longtime Royals owner Ewing Kauffman, who hired the best people available and let them do their jobs.

“That franchise (the Rams) is pretty bad, like ours (the Chiefs),” Frey said. “He probably wouldn’t be very happy. He would want somebody who knew what to do. He wouldn’t have an ego at all. I’d go work for him. I told him that.”

*Spidey's mom* · Oct 15, 2009, 08:15 AM

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew...nt-retract-use

. . .“CNN and MSNBC must immediately and publicly source when Limbaugh uttered this phrase. He has unequivocally denied it. Now it is up to the same news media that reported it as fact to prove that it was, indeed, stated....If they can’t, then they are 100% guilty of character assassination.”

After all, didn’t CNN fact-check a SNL skit? They can obviously make the effort to either find the source or issue a retraction."

*heron* · Oct 15, 2009, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Spidey's mom

Seems to me that regardless of your politics or whether you agree with Rush or not, someone has to concede that people have been telling lies about him.

steph

You may be right about people lying about Limbaugh ... however, my opinion of his race-baiting comes from the time when I still listened to his show, not from what someone else wrote about him. Unless he's had a complete conversion of morals, I can't imagine much has changed.

The fact is, Limbaugh made a choice at some point in his career regarding his personal style of mockery of liberals, whom he defined as anyone who disagreed with him. He stuck with it because it boosted his ratings, ego and income. He still needs to remember that words mean things, behavior has consequences and he's not too big to fail.

All schadenfreude aside, however, there remains the question as to whether dropping Limbaugh from the deal violates his rights somehow.

A sports team is, above all, a business. In business, reputation is all. Since I don't listen to Limbaugh any more, I couldn't really say whether he's a racist now ... he certainly was when I listened to him years ago ... what is certain is that he has the reputation of being racist.

The people putting together the proposal are in business. If their proposal is accepted and this group winds up owning the team, would Limbaugh's reputation be a help or a hindrance to the business? The group obviously felt Limbaugh's reputation was going to be a problem.

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