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| No. 41 |
Oct 15, 2009, 10:12 AM
re: Rush Limbaugh
Satire is a fancy word for sarcasm ... and we know what a destructive weapon that can be. There's a place for it ... but, like salt, best to err on the side of moderation, IMHO.
Since I don't know the man, the question of "what is he, really?" is moot. The problem is his reputation ... what people believe about him. He obviously can't be held solely responsible for others' distorted perceptions of him. Being mislabeled is unfair, no matter who's on the receiving end.
On the other hand, neither can the partners in the investor group. His reputation is what it is at this moment in time and is likely - according to their analysis of the risk - to cause more trouble than it's worth in the unlikely event that they actually manage to buy the team. They get to do that, it's their money, too. It certainly fits my understanding of the term "due diligence" - ie the duty to know who you're doing business with.
So ... what's fair?
| | No. 42 |
Oct 15, 2009, 10:40 AM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by heron So ... what's fair?
rush limbaugh is a self-made sensation.
the burden is on him, to prove that he isn't the person they say he is.
he put himself there, and should extricate himself accordingly...
before the quicksand completely buries him.
leslie | | No. 43 |
Oct 15, 2009, 11:09 AM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by leslie :-D rush limbaugh is a self-made sensation.
the burden is on him, to prove that he isn't the person they say he is.
he put himself there, and should extricate himself accordingly...
before the quicksand completely buries him.
leslie 
Oh, my. Whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty? Rather than Rush proving he isn't who they say he is, I think he should prove they are liars, which would serve the same purpose.
| | No. 44 |
Oct 15, 2009, 11:19 AM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by tntrn Oh, my. Whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty? Rather than Rush proving he isn't who they say he is, I think he should prove they are liars, which would serve the same purpose.
you're right.
either way, the burden is on him.
as it should be.
leslie
| | No. 46 |
Oct 15, 2009, 01:02 PM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by Spidey's mom "Joanie Frey’s friendship with Limbaugh started 30 years ago when she worked for George Brett and he worked for the Royals. That friendship has maintained, enough that she had dinner with Limbaugh recently when he was in Kansas City to pick up Brett for a golf trip.
She is hesitant to talk about Limbaugh because she has heard too much bashing of her friend, accusations of bigotry that just don’t jibe with the man she has known for three decades. Limbaugh is “totally different” away from the microphone, respected enough that there is very little turnover among the people who work for him, Frey said.
Stephen Colbert says outrageous things, exercises his spleen and appears to have an ego bigger than the Atlantic Ocean on his TV show. However, he makes it very clear that he is playing a character; a Google search will show some of the charitable groups with which he works. If Limbaugh is playing a character, he has not given the impression whatsoever that the "real Rush" is a different guy from the man with the microphone. While many people don't "get" or appreciate Colbert, I think it's pretty apparent that there's a difference between him and the persona he plays on TV. I don't see that distinction with Limbaugh. If he is playing a character, he perhaps has become too successful and has inadvertently destroyed his credibility in other high profile business ventures.
I don't doubt that there may be another side to Limbaugh but he has made a fortune on his reputation of being blunt, unabashedly conservative and an enemy of, well, those "L" people, and he has made statements over the years that have come off as racist, homophobic and misogynistic. (Sorry, I resent being called a "feminazi" because I believe in equal opportunities for both genders---or simply because I disagree with Rush.) I think even if there is a kinder, gentler man underneath the blustering persona of Limbaugh, he knows that he'd lose his audience if he didn't make outrageous statements. Without the vitriol, would Rush still be Rush? And would his audience still listen? I don't think so. Originally Posted by Spidey's mom Robinson said that the menial tasks Limbaugh did back then — escorting the national anthem singer, for instance — were beneath him and that both sides knew it was a bad fit. Even back then, Robinson was impressed by Limbaugh’s quick mind and intelligence, sure that he would go on to bigger things.”
I disagree with Robinson here because there should be no task that is beneath someone, no matter how quick-minded and intelligent he/she is. We certainly see that every day in our work as nurses.
| | No. 47 |
Oct 15, 2009, 01:18 PM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by Moogie Stephen Colbert says outrageous things, exercises his spleen and appears to have an ego bigger than the Atlantic Ocean on his TV show. However, he makes it very clear that he is playing a character; a Google search will show some of the charitable groups with which he works. If Limbaugh is playing a character, he has not given the impression whatsoever that the "real Rush" is a different guy from the man with the microphone. While many people don't "get" or appreciate Colbert, I think it's pretty apparent that there's a difference between him and the persona he plays on TV. I don't see that distinction with Limbaugh. If he is playing a character, he perhaps has become too successful and has inadvertently destroyed his credibility in other high profile business ventures. Rush isn't playing a character - he believes everything he is saying - he just uses humor/satire to broadcast it. (Did anyone watch the interview?).
I don't doubt that there may be another side to Limbaugh but he has made a fortune on his reputation of being blunt, unabashedly conservative and an enemy of, well, those "L" people, and he has made statements over the years that have come off as racist, homophobic and misogynistic. (Sorry, I resent being called a "feminazi" because I believe in equal opportunities for both genders---or simply because I disagree with Rush.) I think even if there is a kinder, gentler man underneath the blustering persona of Limbaugh, he knows that he'd lose his audience if he didn't make outrageous statements. Without the vitriol, would Rush still be Rush? And would his audience still listen? I don't think so. The feminazi's are particular people - not feminists in general. He wouldn't be talking about you or me. And of course, all people on the radio or tv have to do more than just sit there a recite a list of what they do and don't believe in. No one would have an audience then.
I disagree with Robinson here because there should be no task that is beneath someone, no matter how quick-minded and intelligent he/she is. We certainly see that every day in our work as nurses.
I think what she meant is that he was certainly capable of more - all of us start from scratch. Rush agrees with this.
I was only able to listen to the first 1/2 hour of the program today but Rush gave an interesting take on what happened. He doesn't have to dig out of anything.
steph
| | No. 48 |
Oct 15, 2009, 02:23 PM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by Elvish Rush doesn't get the bad press he gets because he's white.
He gets it because acts like a jerk.
That's it, in a nutshell.
I personally couldn't care less what Rush OR Al Sharpton have to say, because I think blowhards like them (of all political stripes) are utterly FOS. It seems to me that most people with reasonable intelligence would dismiss their bluster as the incoherent rantings they are, instead of giving them any credibility whatsoever.........but, that's just me. | | No. 49 |
Oct 15, 2009, 03:07 PM
re: Rush Limbaugh Originally Posted by Spidey's mom If you go to his website, there is a link to his interview on the Today Show this week which I thought was interesting. www.rushlimbaugh.com
steph
ok, i finally got through the 2 videos.
i got through all the (predictable) obama-bashing, liberal-bashing, carter-bashing, clinton-bashing...
and of course the (predictable) bush-lovefest, palin-lovefest, beck-lovefest.
what's there not to love?
leslie
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