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Jul 02, 2009, 10:35 PM
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Jul 02, 2009 at 10:43 PM by ZASHAGALKA
Re: Tea Parties
I'm a scheduled speaker at 3 different Tea Parties this weekend. . .
Nothing ironic about protesting government. It's how we became Americans.
The whole point of transferring power to Washington is to prevent people from having a voice in their government (and their lives, for that matter). We have a first amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances. The push to Washington is designed to blunt that redress of government.
For example, President Obama made a telling admission a few weeks ago: if health care isn't passed NOW, it won't be. What he MEANS is that if we get any closer to the election, Congress will be too afraid of their constituents to vote for health care. AMAZING admission.
We are NOT a nation of mob rule. Just because you want something from government doesn't mean that government has the authority to do so. We are a Constitutionally limited Republic. We are so, on purpose. Don't tread on me.
~faith,
Timothy.
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Jul 03, 2009, 12:00 AM
Re: Tea Parties Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA I'm a scheduled speaker at 3 different Tea Parties this weekend. . .
Nothing ironic about protesting government. It's how we became Americans.
The whole point of transferring power to Washington is to prevent people from having a voice in their government (and their lives, for that matter). We have a first amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances. The push to Washington is designed to blunt that redress of government.
For example, President Obama made a telling admission a few weeks ago: if health care isn't passed NOW, it won't be. What he MEANS is that if we get any closer to the election, Congress will be too afraid of their constituents to vote for health care. AMAZING admission.
We are NOT a nation of mob rule. Just because you want something from government doesn't mean that government has the authority to do so. We are a Constitutionally limited Republic. We are so, on purpose. Don't tread on me.
~faith,
Timothy.
I have a question. Do you think that the federal government, as it is right now is actually trying to take away your first amendent rights, or plans to do so? I just haven't been presented with any credible evidence from our federal government (under Obama and the Dems) that indicates that they are seriously seeking to violate my rights as a U.S citizen.
You could br right, regarding what the President said about health care legislation. I didn't actually hear him say it. It's my guess that something will come from the Congress in late July and a bill will be passed before the year is out, unless of course the health insurance companies and the AMA kill reform like they have done in the past. Perhaps that's his fear, that they will infect the government with their lobbying and influence, and ultimately kill reform unless it is done quickly.
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Jul 03, 2009, 12:22 AM
Re: Tea Parties
You ROCK timothy!!!
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Jul 03, 2009, 01:38 AM
Re: Tea Parties Originally Posted by GCTMT I have a question. Do you think that the federal government, as it is right now is actually trying to take away your first amendent rights, or plans to do so? I just haven't been presented with any credible evidence from our federal government (under Obama and the Dems) that indicates that they are seriously seeking to violate my rights as a U.S citizen.
You could br right, regarding what the President said about health care legislation. I didn't actually hear him say it. It's my guess that something will come from the Congress in late July and a bill will be passed before the year is out, unless of course the health insurance companies and the AMA kill reform like they have done in the past. Perhaps that's his fear, that they will infect the government with their lobbying and influence, and ultimately kill reform unless it is done quickly.
Listen to progressives talk about why they don't want the power or authority for any of their pet projects to be carried out locally or at the State level. They will tell you that it's because you would not be able to depend upon every jurisdiction to do the things that they want. The more local government is to you, the more responsive government is to you.
Try an experiment next week (everybody will be closed for the holiday tomorrow): Call your local city councilperson and see if you can actually reach them by phone. Then, try the same with your Congresscritter. Which do YOU think would be easier to reach?
Trying to legislate every detail from Washington, by fiat, IS a denial of the First Amendment right to petition the government for redress. That's the whole point: to ensure things are done in such a way that a more local and accountable layer of government cannot interfere. "And so, we are NOT so far removed from the original Boston Tea Party, protesting the deaf ears of a remote and unresponsive government."
I will post my July 4th Tea Party Speech here on Sunday (It's embargoed until I give it - 3 times in the next 2 days!). In the meantime, back to practicing and editing!
~faith,
Timothy.
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Jul 03, 2009, 11:03 AM
Re: Tea Parties Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA Listen to progressives talk about why they don't want the power or authority for any of their pet projects to be carried out locally or at the State level. They will tell you that it's because you would not be able to depend upon every jurisdiction to do the things that they want. The more local government is to you, the more responsive government is to you.
Try an experiment next week (everybody will be closed for the holiday tomorrow): Call your local city councilperson and see if you can actually reach them by phone. Then, try the same with your Congresscritter. Which do YOU think would be easier to reach? Well, that's obvious. It's easy to get in touch with my city councilman because I live in a really small town, my Congressman is harder to get in contact with by phone, because he represents a larger area. For the record, I have e-mailed him a few times, and have always received a response.
Trying to legislate every detail from Washington, by fiat, IS a denial of the First Amendment right to petition the government for redress. That's the whole point: to ensure things are done in such a way that a more local and accountable layer of government cannot interfere. So then, if the federal government passes a health care reform bill, that will somehow deny you your right to petition the government for redress? "And so, we are NOT so far removed from the original Boston Tea Party, protesting the deaf ears of a remote and unresponsive government." The government is responding, just not in a way that you want. You have the right to vote and I am assuming you did so, but your candidate lost.
I will post my July 4th Tea Party Speech here on Sunday (It's embargoed until I give it - 3 times in the next 2 days!). In the meantime, back to practicing and editing!
~faith,
Timothy.
Just a few thoughts.
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Jul 03, 2009, 01:05 PM
Re: Tea Parties
From The Anti-Defamation League: White Supremacists May Attempt To Co-Opt July 4 "Tea Parties" To Promote A Hateful Agenda White supremacists and neo-Nazi hate groups plan to take advantage of the anti-tax "Tea Parties" set to occur in more than 1,000 cities and localities over the July 4 holiday weekend to disseminate racist fliers and other materials and attempt to recruit others to their cause, according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). ADL's Center on Extremism, which monitors extremist groups and provides information to law enforcement and the public, has released information on its Web site describing the attempt by white supremacists to co-opt the anti-tax message of the events as a means to spread racism and anti-Semitism. On Stormfront, the most popular white supremacist Internet forum, members have discussed becoming local organizers of the "Tea Parties" and finding ways to involve themselves in the events. Many racists have voiced their intent to attend these rallies for the purpose of cultivating an "organized grassroots White mass movement," with some suggesting that they would do so without openly identifying themselves as racists. According to Tea Party organizers, rallies are currently planned in all 50 states and in 1,328 cities. | | No. 8 |
Jul 03, 2009, 01:12 PM
Re: Tea Parties
Hey Tim, what tea parties are you speaking at? I would love to catch your speech at one of them.
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Jul 03, 2009, 01:24 PM
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Jul 03, 2009 at 06:02 PM by HM2VikingRN
Re: Tea Parties
Some of the messages that may well be distributed at your local tea party: This flyer may well be distributed at our Tea Party. Posts to Stormfront:
"We need a relevent [sic] transitional envelope-pushing flyer for the masses. Take these Tea Party Americans by the hand and help them go from crawling to standing independently and then walking toward racialism."
"We intervene to shape the new pro-White grassroots agenda from within the crowd. We intervene for active effect at the event, for advancement of White racial consciousness and solidarity, and for the growth of the organized grassroots White mass movement and the most perceptive racially aware activist element."
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"I distributed WN literature at the last Tea Party in Phoenix. I will be doing it again in July. This is the time and the place. For those on a budget, I would suggest printing business cards with the web address of your group or organization. Keep it simple."
"I think they'd be ideal for spreading WN literature and gaining recruits in large numbers, more quickly."
.... An anti-Semite and white supremacist using the name "Whites Forward" created the Tea Party Americans Coalition (TPAC) as "a working group for serious White racialist ACTIVISTS in the US who want to effectively coordinate our efforts and intervene for effect in Tea Party-type events." Anti-Semitic, racist, and anti-immigrant themes run through the six issues on which the working group is based.
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Billy Roper, who heads the white supremacist White Revolution group, based in Arkansas, is listed as an organizer on a Tea Party movement Web site. In a June 2009 post to the White Revolution blog, Roper claimed to be organizing a Tea Party in Arkansas and sending White Revolution "representatives who will be witnessing and converting lost souls at Tea Parties from North Carolina to Arizona." [emphasis in original]
A May blog post revealed that White Revolution members will attend local Tea Party protests and distribute leaflets and flyers. Their goal will be to "educate, activate, and recruit." The blog post encouraged readers to "plan to attend one to do your part for our race and nation!"
at http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/Wh...ea_Parties.htm
Do you really want to associate with racist groups? America has struggled enough with division and prejudice.
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