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from dria
Old Apr 04, 2009, 12:57 PM

Default Re: Why should illegal immigrants get tuition breaks?
Yeah, I get that. Which only serves to reinforce my point.
I was using the max age they could have come over here and still benefit from the change in legislation. Made perfect sense to me, but I can see where that could be confusion.
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No. 11
from herring_RN
Old Apr 04, 2009, 01:43 PM

Default Re: Why should illegal immigrants get tuition breaks?
Originally Posted by dria View Post
Yeah, I get that. Which only serves to reinforce my point.
I was using the max age they could have come over here and still benefit from the change in legislation. Made perfect sense to me, but I can see where that could be confusion.
That makes sense. Thank you!

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No. 12
Old Apr 04, 2009, 02:15 PM

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I am personally appalled at the underhanded way the state of Colorado has handled this. Whether for this, or against this, to sway the vote by calling an emergency vote while, knowing full well, the out come. Just another example of the manipulations that go on in our government offices by our elected leaders. Being from the state of Colorado, I am just appalled at this action. Another fine example of accountability.
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No. 13
from Elvish
Old Apr 04, 2009, 02:18 PM
Updated Apr 04, 2009 at 03:00 PM by Elvish

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Well, it ought to be blatantly obvious by now where I stand on this one.

Even Mike Huckabee said once - I just can't grind this debate into the face of a six-year-old. (Who will, eventually, be an 18-year-old.)

Which is why I fully support the DREAM act, as well as instate tuition.
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No. 14
from tntrn
Old Apr 04, 2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cwazycwissyRN View Post
I am personally appalled at the underhanded way the state of Colorado has handled this. Whether for this, or against this, to sway the vote by calling an emergency vote while, knowing full well, the out come. Just another example of the manipulations that go on in our government offices by our elected leaders. Being from the state of Colorado, I am just appalled at this action. Another fine example of accountability.
I so totally agree with you.

And the real question, for me, is this: why should illegal immigrants (and even if they were brought here in diapers, they're still illegal immigrants) get a tuition break before or instead of legal residents?
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No. 15
from Elvish
Old Apr 04, 2009, 03:02 PM

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I didn't see anywhere where anyone said they'd get anything 'before or ahead of' anyone else.

Most everybody I know can make the distinction between doing something because you want to, and being made to do something because that's what your parents did. I am going to bow out for now, because otherwise things will get WAY too personal for me.
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No. 16
Old Apr 04, 2009, 03:18 PM

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It seems if we were to really be speaking in the best interest of the children/high school students, we would direct our attentions to education/ability to become US citizens first. Otherwise when they graduate and get a degree at a college, it would be illegal to hire them in America. Also, if they have been here only three years, it may benefit them to have English speaking and reading abilities addressed to ensure we are not setting them up for failure, at the college level. There are many facets of these issues needing to be addressed.
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No. 17
from Elvish
Old Apr 04, 2009, 03:30 PM

Default Re: Why should illegal immigrants get tuition breaks?
Originally Posted by cwazycwissyRN View Post
It seems if we were to really be speaking in the best interest of the children/high school students, we would direct our attentions to education/ability to become US citizens first. Otherwise when they graduate and get a degree at a college, it would be illegal to hire them in America. Also, if they have been here only three years, it may benefit them to have English speaking and reading abilities addressed to ensure we are not setting them up for failure, at the college level. There are many facets of these issues needing to be addressed.
Cwissy.

Unfortunately, current immigration law is such that children of illegal immigrants have no pathway by which to become US citizens, much as their parents do not. This is why I support the DREAM act, which many opponents of immigration reform oppose - to their own peril, I fear.

I agree with you that allowing children of undocumented immigrants to go to college without addressing their immigration status is setting them up for failure in the long run.
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No. 18
from tntrn
Old Apr 04, 2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvish View Post
I didn't see anywhere where anyone said they'd get anything 'before or ahead of' anyone else.

In my state it's already happening. The illegal kids can get an instate tuition break, while some kids who were born in this state are turned away. That's wrong.l
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No. 19
Old Apr 04, 2009, 04:14 PM

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I think it's shameful to use children as political pawns. Three years (minimum) in a Colorado high school seems reasonable to me regarding residency (which is what this is all about). For whatever reason, these kids find themselves in this battle with no wrongdoing of their own. I wish their parents had available routes to do things differently, but that's another issue. So, do these kids deserve in-state tuition? Colorado requirements for residency are whichever of the following occurs first:
  • Own or operate a business in Colorado.
  • Are gainfully employed in Colorado.
  • Reside in Colorado for 90 consecutive days.
http://www.co.larimer.co.us/motorv/r...quirements.htm

The issue is not about whether or not they can go to college, but if they have met the above requirements to be considered residents of Colorado.

Everything else is politics, as I attempted to demonstrate in a previous post.
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