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| No. 31 |
Jan 29, 2009, 11:22 AM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done" Originally Posted by Elvish No, it wasn't all he said....but the rest of what he said backs up those four words 'I hope he fails.'
I couldn't disagree with you more. While he did say those words, he ALSO said he hoped his policies fail. I think that is far more important because the policies aren't good ones. If they fail, it will prove they are bad ones. That was the gist of it, to me.
And when I first heard him say, "I hope he fails." I thought. "uh-oh, you're in deep doodoo." But he went on to explain what he meant by that, to explain he meant he hoped the policies would fail and then it made sense to me.
But it's skewed now and many will hear just those four words, as that's all that will be reported.
| | No. 32 |
Jan 29, 2009, 11:42 AM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done" Originally Posted by tntrn
And when I first heard him say, "I hope he fails." I thought. "uh-oh, you're in deep doodoo." But he went on to explain what he meant by that, to explain he meant he hoped the policies would fail and then it made sense to me.
But it's skewed now and many will hear just those four words, as that's all that will be reported.
ok, but according to links provided in this debate, he didn't expound on it here.
that's why i asked steph where she got her source?
hoping she'll provide links.
also, and unless i misunderstood it, under copyrighted materials in the tos, it says to provide only a portion of the article along with a link.
so if you're going to quote someone, it has to be something "quotable"...audio, online article.
leslie
| | No. 33 |
Jan 29, 2009, 12:03 PM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done"
Well, I heard him say it . . but I went to his website and found the transcript and quoted from that. RUSH: This morning, CNN, they have a beat reporter on me. Her name is Carol Costello. I'm her beat. Coanchor Kiran Chetry, introduction to... Wait a minute. This is not about Green Bay. This is about the Last Man Standing. This is about I want Obama to fail. I don't want Obama to fail; I want the country to succeed! I want Obama's policies to fail. But Obama's failure to implement his policies is good news, the best news possible for this country. That's all I'm saying. Okay, you want to hear one of the CNN bites? Okay, here's Kiran Chetry introducing the correspondent Carol Costello, the Limbaugh beat reporter, the pool reporter at CNN, on me HETRY: Barack Obama has inspired millions to "hope," including Rush Limbaugh, only Rush Limbaugh hopes something very different. Let's listen.
RUSH ARCHIVE: Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: 'I hope he fails.'" www.rushlimbaugh.com . . .. . .type in "obama to fail" in the search engine. | | No. 34 |
Jan 29, 2009, 12:25 PM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done"
ok...i did as steph advised, and read the top 4 (out of 136) responses.
limbaugh's contention basically, is how one defines success.
success for me, isn't going to be the same for you.
and he does elaborate on what he means.
bottom line: we are hard pressed to find scrupulous media articles...
ones that won't edit in order to sensationalize a totally different message.
and limbaugh is complaining that this journalist, rick sanchez, did just that...
that he reported "limbaugh wants obama to fail" w/o elucidation.
but honestly, i think i understood what limbaugh was saying, from the links contained herein.
and to me, it makes sense.
leslie
| | No. 35 |
Jan 29, 2009, 12:28 PM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done"
I read the article that was linked three or four times ... partly because long unbroken paragraphs on a monitor make my eyes bleed, so I really wanted to be sure I got the gist of what he was saying.
My first question is, are we all talking about the same transcript? Or are there two different broadcasts under discussion here? The one I am referring to is dated Jan. 16.
After reading, I still can't see Rush actually making an argument for anything. He's repeating his chant of socialism over and over but not really advancing any alternative proposal.
I'm waiting to hear how "free enterprise" as practiced in this country ... especially by the financial industry and multi-national corporations will correct our economic problems.
For instance, take the housing mess. Conservatives have a point ... there is a problem with personal responsibility in this country. Many of the people who got into mortgages they couldn't afford after the interest adjusted were, indeed, heedless and ignorant of the implications of the mortgages they were signing and shouldn't have done so.
But how about the personal responsibility of the brokers who sold those mortgages, using a sales pitch that said values would only go up and you could refinance before then ... for a profit?
Or the speculators who took low cost houses and proceeded to "flip" them over and over ... one house in my neighborhood flipped four times in two years ... always at a profit and driving prices ever upward?
Or the lenders who assumed, along with everyone else, that real estate values would only go up ... and collected interest on those loans ... more profit?
Or the bank regulators, who no longer had the power to insist on sound lending practices, because government got out of the way of "private enterprise" ... didn't we learn anything from the savings and loan mess?
Or the financial industry wizards who found a way to earn yet more profit on those risky loans by selling off bundles of subprime loans ... playing musical chairs with the risk and turning a profit on every flip ... and collecting obscene amounts of money in salaries and bonuses for doing so?
Or those institutions who collected 350 billion in federal money and still refuse to rework mortgages in trouble or do any business lending at all? Where did that money go?
I submit that unprincipled free enterprise had a whole lot to do with the current collapse ... I have yet to see any acknowledgement of that or any suggestion as to how to deal with it if not through government involvement.
I hear that conservatives don't want to spend more or let the government take any more power. So what do you want to do instead?
| | No. 37 |
Jan 29, 2009, 01:26 PM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done" Originally Posted by heron I read the article that was linked three or four times ... partly because long unbroken paragraphs on a monitor make my eyes bleed, so I really wanted to be sure I got the gist of what he was saying.
My first question is, are we all talking about the same transcript? Or are there two different broadcasts under discussion here? The one I am referring to is dated Jan. 16.
After reading, I still can't see Rush actually making an argument for anything. He's repeating his chant of socialism over and over but not really advancing any alternative proposal.
I'm waiting to hear how "free enterprise" as practiced in this country ... especially by the financial industry and multi-national corporations will correct our economic problems.
For instance, take the housing mess. Conservatives have a point ... there is a problem with personal responsibility in this country. Many of the people who got into mortgages they couldn't afford after the interest adjusted were, indeed, heedless and ignorant of the implications of the mortgages they were signing and shouldn't have done so.
But how about the personal responsibility of the brokers who sold those mortgages, using a sales pitch that said values would only go up and you could refinance before then ... for a profit?
Or the speculators who took low cost houses and proceeded to "flip" them over and over ... one house in my neighborhood flipped four times in two years ... always at a profit and driving prices ever upward?
Or the lenders who assumed, along with everyone else, that real estate values would only go up ... and collected interest on those loans ... more profit?
Or the bank regulators, who no longer had the power to insist on sound lending practices, because government got out of the way of "private enterprise" ... didn't we learn anything from the savings and loan mess?
Or the financial industry wizards who found a way to earn yet more profit on those risky loans by selling off bundles of subprime loans ... playing musical chairs with the risk and turning a profit on every flip ... and collecting obscene amounts of money in salaries and bonuses for doing so?
Or those institutions who collected 350 billion in federal money and still refuse to rework mortgages in trouble or do any business lending at all? Where did that money go?
I submit that unprincipled free enterprise had a whole lot to do with the current collapse ... I have yet to see any acknowledgement of that or any suggestion as to how to deal with it if not through government involvement.
I hear that conservatives don't want to spend more or let the government take any more power. So what do you want to do instead?
Actually, Rush does talk about the alternatives all the time.
And conservatives do have alternative plans.
steph
| | No. 38 |
Jan 29, 2009, 01:27 PM
Re: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done"
And they are ...
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