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Oct 29, 2009 09:46 PM

Fox News is viewed as being the most ideologically oriented of the big three cable ne

by HM2VikingRN Staff

Fox is viewed as being conservative by 47% of Americans, as liberal by 14% (Who are these people???), and as being neither by 24%. CNN is viewed as conservative by 11%, liberal by 37%, and neither by 33%. MSNBC is seen as conservative by 11% (Again: Who are these people???), liberal by 36%, and neither by 27%.

The poll also finds that the view of Fox as being conservative is shared across groups of people who watch different networks. However, people who watch Fox are more likely to view the other networks as being liberal.
From TPM.....




Pew poll results...

Its a symptom of the echo chamber effect....Fox viewers tend to see the other networks as more liberal than their regular viewers....


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Old Oct 30, 2009, 01:08 AM

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Ah, poor little other news networks.

5 against 1 . . . . just not fair.


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Yep, not fair Steph because Fox can single-handledly cater to that conservative element and keep making big bucks.
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I think its damaging to political discourse when any media outlet abandons journalistic inquiry for pursuit of promotion of a political agenda.
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Old Oct 30, 2009, 09:44 AM

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It says alot about that Poll (as to trustworthiness), that 11% would find MSNBC "mostly conservative". That made me chuckle.
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It says alot about that Poll (as to trustworthiness), that 11% would find MSNBC "mostly conservative". That made me chuckle.
More than the 14% that said Fox was liberal??
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Originally Posted by HM2VikingRN View Post
I think its damaging to political discourse when any media outlet abandons journalistic inquiry for pursuit of promotion of a political agenda.
I think it's more they are in pursuit of $$ from advertisers by increasing their audience. If they are the only station that is viewed as conservatives, naturally conservatives are going to watch and that is a huge market as it's about half the country. Pretty clever actually.

To be fair, MSNBC with their decidely liberal slant is probably thinking the same thing...."let's get the anti-Fox audience".
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Originally Posted by HM2VikingRN View Post
I think its damaging to political discourse when any media outlet abandons journalistic inquiry for pursuit of promotion of a political agenda.
Well, that is my point - ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC all, at times, abandon journalistic inquiry for pursuit of promotion of their political agenda.

So . . 5 networks who promote a more liberal agenda and bash a conservative one . . . . .prompted the creation of Fox.

They only have themselves to blame.

The "Big 5" lived in an insular bubble, an elitist bubble, and poo poo'd other ideas or concerns and it just got frustrating for those of us who don't share their viewpoint.

I should have written "1 against 5 - poor little other news networks" . . . .good grief, they have 5 times the ability to push their agenda and they are complaining about 1 voice.

Sounds like whining to me.

There are so many books and scholarly articles that came out in the last 10 or so years about media bias, with example after example of "The Big 5" not doing their homework about issues or skewing information to benefit their point of view.

I'm not making this up.

http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx Just a few quotes:

Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.

Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center.
"One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Web sites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media."


An interesting website I found this morning:


http://www.akdart.com/media.html



Political bias may be impossible to avoid in today's style of fast-paced 24-hour news coverage. News programs today are apparently designed to retain the attention of hyperactive and impatient viewers — people with dozens of other channels from which to choose, and a remote control always nearby.


As many people have pointed out, broadcast news is dangerous, not because of what's reported, but because of what is not reported.



I think that last statement is very important - what is NOT reported definitely skews the story.


Many folks think true journalism is dead. I think so too. Maybe it is a casualty of the 24/7 coverage . . . . they have to come up with a story and so they run with stuff before they check it out.

But this has been coming a long time - even before 24/7 coverage.

This is the first book I read about bias in the media:

Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News by Bernard Goldberg


http://www.amazon.com/Bias-Insider-E...6918259&sr=1-2

"In his nearly thirty years at CBS News, Emmy Award winner Bernard Goldberg earned a reputation as one of the preeminent reporters in the television news business. When he looked at his own industry, however, he saw that the media far too often ignored their primary mission: to provide objective, disinterested reporting. Again and again he saw that the news slanted to the left. For years, Goldberg appealed to reporters, producers, and network executives for more balanced reporting, but no one listened. The liberal bias continued.
Now, breaking ranks and naming names, he reveals a corporate news culture in which the closed-mindedness is breathtaking and in which entertainment wins over hard news every time."





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Old Oct 30, 2009, 10:26 AM
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Good post Steph, there's always two sides to the story.

Media bias has always irritated me. It's a good point that more liberal media have created the one standout conservative station for those whom are conservatives.
Conservatives indeed have decried the liberal media for years.

Still, and this is just my opinion, and we'll agree to disagree, and it's not based on any researched facts, Fox is pretty blatent in their slant and I disagree that the other networks have an "liberal agenda" akin to anything Fox does. Maybe Fox doesn't have an agenda either, because I'm convinced their only agenda is ratings and profit.
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Updated Oct 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM by HM2VikingRN

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Jon Stewart looks at the domination of opinion over news on Fox.... The opinion talking heads drive the coverage.....

"Some people say" is started by the opinionators

Video

Shepherd Smith apologizing for lack of balance;

ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed. View this video at YouTube
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