Judge finds warrantless wiretaps illegal

pickledpepperRN · Aug 17, 2006 01:01 PM

U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor said the warrantless wiretapping under the "Terrorist Surveillance Program" violated free speech rights, protections against unreasonable searches and the constitutional check on the power of the presidency. - http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/new...archived=False

US judge rules wiretaps illegal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5260892.stm

Judge finds warrantless wiretaps illegal
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...4616-8419r.htm

Written a decade ago - Democracy Betrayed Means New Wiretapping Powers:
http://www.cato.org/dailys/10-02-96.html

pickledpepperRN · Aug 17, 2006, 05:30 PM

Why NOT get a warrant? It can be done after the fact in secret.

Judge orders stop to warrantless phone wiretapping

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/interna...=1155848911000

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGCLKKD2A4.DTL

pickledpepperRN · Aug 17, 2006, 10:58 PM

Judges opinion:
http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/eGov/ta...06%2010204.pdf

ZASHAGALKA · Aug 17, 2006, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by spacenurse

U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor said the warrantless wiretapping under the "Terrorist Surveillance Program" violated free speech rights, protections against unreasonable searches and the constitutional check on the power of the presidency. -

Do you know who won the election for Pres. Bush in 2004? The Mass Supreme Court legislating from the bench to allow gay marriage. It caused the issue to be put on the ballot in Ohio and probably brought out enough more votes in Ohio, as a result, to swing the election.

So, HOW do you 'get the base' out for Republicans in 2006? Answer: Get some liberal judge to endanger National Security.

So, thank you Judge Taylor. You may have just saved the 2006 election for Republicans. . .

I just hope not tooooo many Americans are needlessly killed as a result between now and when this wrongheaded political decision is fixed.

~faith,
Timothy.

pickledpepperRN · Aug 18, 2006, 08:56 AM

Why not
Get a warrant?
Ask Congress for a new law?
or obey the law?
The President himself said you need a warrant.

pickledpepperRN · Aug 18, 2006, 09:00 AM

``We can and should wiretap terrorists under the current FISA law,'' Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said after Taylor's ruling. ``The problem has been the Bush-Cheney administration's insistence on doing it illegally, without checks and balances to prevent abusing the rights of Americans.''
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15303535.htm

*Roy Fokker* · Aug 18, 2006, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA

So, HOW do you 'get the base' out for Republicans in 2006? Answer: Get some liberal judge to endanger National Security.

So, thank you Judge Taylor. You may have just saved the 2006 election for Republicans. . .

I just hope not tooooo many Americans are needlessly killed as a result between now and when this wrongheaded political decision is fixed.

~faith,
Timothy.

Besides the political rhetoric:

How is getting a warrant "endangering national security" ?
We pour billions into our intelligence services - are you saying they are so incompetent that they can't show probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant?

We must violate the law to preserve it!
Oh wait, what are we fighting to rpeserve anyway?

Come on!

*Roy Fokker* · Aug 18, 2006, 01:56 PM

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*Logan* · Aug 18, 2006, 01:57 PM

Get with it, America! Due Process is so over. Just ask Michael Chertoff, forward-thinking chief of the Department of Homeland Security. "It's not like the 20th century," he told ABC News on Sunday, "where you had time to get warrants."

http://www.reason.com/links/links081706.shtml

pickledpepperRN · Aug 18, 2006, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Roy Fokker

Besides the political rhetoric:

How is getting a warrant "endangering national security" ?
We pour billions into our intelligence services - are you saying they are so incompetent that they can't show probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant?

We must violate the law to preserve it!
Oh wait, what are we fighting to rpeserve anyway?

Come on!

Sorry I let myself get distracted.
The point is that this is not a dictatorship.
The President needs to obey the law and respect the court.

Judge finds warrantless wiretaps illegal

Judge finds warrantless wiretaps illegal

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