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No. 20
Old Nov 21, 2009, 12:30 PM

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I was browsing through cafepress just now and found some reasons for my initial thoughts re: Pray for Obama.

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No. 21
from herring_RN
Old Nov 21, 2009, 01:09 PM

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I doubt is those sold well.
People were wearing shirts and hats in support of their new President.
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No. 22
Old Nov 21, 2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by herring_RN View Post
I doubt is those sold well.
People were wearing shirts and hats in support of their new President.
I remember those as sig lines from some of our AN members.

My point is, this is why my first impression of "Pray for Obama" was what it was.

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No. 23
from leslie :-D
Old Nov 21, 2009, 02:40 PM

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"Whether it's clever, funny or downright dangerous is a matter of opinion. Clearly, though, it's certainly not very nice.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...er-for-obama/1

and i am happy to report, cafepress is removing and banning the items in question.

"General consensus has proven that the design does point to a broader interpretation of the Psalm and thus has been deemed inappropriate for sale at CafePress."

http://gawker.com/5409609/cafepress-...r-obamas-death


leslie
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No. 24
Old Nov 21, 2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by leslie :-D View Post
"Whether it's clever, funny or downright dangerous is a matter of opinion. Clearly, though, it's certainly not very nice.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...er-for-obama/1

and i am happy to report, cafepress is removing and banning the items in question.

"General consensus has proven that the design does point to a broader interpretation of the Psalm and thus has been deemed inappropriate for sale at CafePress."

http://gawker.com/5409609/cafepress-is-no-longer-officially-okay-with-praying-for-obamas-death


leslie
Well, good. But I just got that off cafepress a few minutes ago. They'd better hurry.

steph
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No. 25
from leslie :-D
Old Nov 21, 2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spidey's mom View Post
Well, good. But I just got that off cafepress a few minutes ago. They'd better hurry.

steph
the gawker.com link works now, if you care to read it.

leslie
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No. 26
Old Nov 21, 2009, 02:46 PM

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I did see this one too, mentioned in the article you linked Leslie. I like this one.

1 Timothy 2:1-2, which reads in the NIV:
I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone
For kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

:angel2:steph












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No. 27
Old Nov 21, 2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by leslie :-D View Post
the gawker.com link works now, if you care to read it.

leslie
Oh . . that was a little sneaky Leslie . . . . I had to scroll past the Levi Johnson photo and story about his PlayGirl spread in order to read the "Pray for Obama" stuff . . . . . . . . . .


steph:roll
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No. 28
from Elvish
Old Nov 22, 2009, 07:38 AM

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It was, most likely, intended as a joke. But it isn’t really very funny. Especially since the next verse reads, “May his children be orphans, and his wife a widow.” The passage goes on the same way — asking God to pulverize this poor fellow — that he lose all his worldly goods, that his orphans be abandoned, that his father be remembered as a sinner, and finally, that “his memory be cut off from the earth.”

Thus, the “Prayer for Obama” does more than anticipate that he leaves office; it entreats God to destroy the president.

Psalm 109 belongs to a special category of the psalms known as “imprecatory” prayers — it is a lament in the form of petition to destroy one’s enemies. It is the personal prayer of an individual, someone who has been dealt an injustice by another (usually more powerful) person. The words of Psalm 109 are those of deep agony, the longings of a victim for retribution and justice. This psalm is considered one of the most difficult of all the psalms — full of violent images of vengeance and death. Many a biblical critic has struggled with its words, and not a few — including Roman Catholic and mainline Protestant theologians — recommend it not be used in public worship, much less as a bumper-sticker political slogan.
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No. 29
from heron
Old Nov 22, 2009, 03:49 PM

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And, herring, I particularly like the conclusion of that piece:

Lewis suspects that it may be best to leave such psalms alone. But then he says that we must face “facts squarely.”
The hatred is there — festering, gloating, undisguised — and also we should be wicked if we in any way condoned or approved it, or (worse still) used it to justify similar passions in ourselves (p. 22).
Lewis refers to these psalms as horrible, devilish, cruel, hateful, and evil. He believes that Psalm 109 — and the poetry of its kind in the psalter — should point us back to the evil we carry within and teach us each how to behave with goodness, humility, and love.

According to the venerable C.S. Lewis, then, a “Prayer for Obama” is really a prayer for ourselves to go beyond “festering, gloating, undisguised” hatred. ”If the Divine does not call to make us better, it will make us very much worse,” he reminded his readers. “Of all bad men, religious bad men are the worst.”

And, totally OT and speaking of CS Lewis ... has anyone here read The Screwtape Letters? Just about the best description of how evil can infiltrate even the most well-meaning of souls that I have ever read.
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