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Aug 17, 2006 11:54 PM written by URO-RN | 12 Comments
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http://www.intellectualconservative....-the-aclu-way/
The ACLU came into existence during World War I to defend anarchists and socialists who endeavored to sabotage the United States government.
 
 
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from URO-RN
Old Aug 18, 2006, 08:31 AM

There is a long pedigree for the liberal mindset that leads to assiduously blocking effective methods of surveillance and detention of enemies of the United States, the same mindset that produced repeated, putatively criminal revelations of top-secret national security programs by the New York Times. http://www.intellectualconservative....-the-aclu-way/

 
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from Roy Fokker
Old Aug 18, 2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by URO-RN


Just shows how much the "intellectual conservative" hates the Bill of Rights.

Love the Bill of Rights? Why you must be a Communist!
Civil liberties are the corner stones of a just and free society.

I admire the ACLU for standing up to defend the First Amendment. I wish they'd defend the 2nd Amendment just as vigourously.
 
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from URO-RN
Old Aug 18, 2006, 01:37 PM

http://www.issuespot.com/2005/08/acl...o-disgust.html

From defending pedophiles to protecting the rights of terrorists the ACLU never ceases to amaze. This is no longer an organization who can claim to exist solely to preserve the bill of rights. Where is the ACLU on the second amendment? Why would an organization defend NAMBLA, a pedophile group against the family of a murdered10 year old boy?
This is as sick as it gets folks. But the ACLU believes it is a freedom being denied to people. And before liberals start to ask. Yes, the ACLU has a current policy advocating the legalization of child porn distribution and possession.
"Students of liberty, from John Stuart Mill to Thomas Emerson, have all intentionally excluded children from their formula for freedom. The ACLU does not. Not even when the subject is pornography.Quote from Twilight Of Liberty
In 1982, the ACLU, in an amicus role, lost in a unanimous decision in the Supreme Court to legalize the sale and distribution of child pornography."
The case is...: New York Vs Ferber, 458 U.S. 747 It can be found here.
http://stuckon-stupid.com/blog/2006/04/post_37.html
 
No. 5
from Roy Fokker
Old Aug 18, 2006, 02:03 PM

Why would an organization defend NAMBLA, a pedophile group against the family of a murdered10 year old boy?
Typical emotional rhetoric that obfusciates the facts.

The ACLU has always said every group - even NAMBLA - have a right to speak and have representation in court. The ACLU doesn't defend "NAMBLA" - only their "Rights" as guaranteed by the Constitution.

Even the most heinous murderer or rapist gets to have medical treatment and his/her day in court - as it should be.


In 1982, the ACLU, in an amicus role, lost in a unanimous decision in the Supreme Court to legalize the sale and distribution of child pornography."
The case is...: New York Vs Ferber, 458 U.S. 747 It can be found here.
That isn't a First Amendment issue - that is a First Amendment as it applies through the Fourteenth Amendment issue.

Not the same thing. THAT ruling merely states that individual States have the right to impose their own standards on what they feel is acceptable and that this right is not trumped by the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
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from Logan
Old Aug 18, 2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Roy Fokker
Just shows how much the "intellectual conservative" hates the Bill of Rights.

Love the Bill of Rights? Why you must be a Communist!
Civil liberties are the corner stones of a just and free society.

I admire the ACLU for standing up to defend the First Amendment. I wish they'd defend the 2nd Amendment just as vigourously.
Hi,

Why stop just at the First and Second Amendments?
Are the rest of "Bill of Rights" no less important?
Are property rights any less important that the right to free speech and expression?

Maybe the ACLU should call itself the "First Amendment Defence Organisation" or something.


Constitutions and laws don’t keep government power in check; only a vigilant populace can do that. - Dr. Ron Paul
Thanks,
Matthew
 
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from CHATSDALE
Old Aug 18, 2006, 04:37 PM

aclu doesnot take conservative issues very seriously maybe they can only see one side of an issue
 
No. 8
Old Aug 18, 2006, 05:05 PM

What conservative rights regarding constitutional civil liberties should be protected?
 
No. 9
Old Aug 18, 2006, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by spacenurse
What conservative rights regarding constitutional civil liberties should be protected?

The constitional rights cannot interfere with other peoples rights. I believe the right to free speech so adamantely protected by the ACLU can impinge on others rights. Does NAMBLA really rank higher than protecting our children? Oh, I forgot; children can't vote so they don't have any rights. Especially when they have been murdered by pedophile rapists.

Disgusting.


Bring on the flames.
 
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